Do you consider Pink Floyd "prog-rock"?

[Beware the Beast Man]

[Wat_Tyler]

1. Post-Syd, there are certainly elements.

Tough call - art rock, perhaps?
Their biggest prog period was post-Saucerful, pre-Dark Side.

[billyskank]

2. They once were

in the 70s, but then in the 80s they personally killed prog rock for ever with The Wall.

[jobycom]

5. I'm curious, because that comment could go either way

Are you saying that The Wall killed prog by being a really bad version of prog rock, or that it killed prog by being really good art rock and making prog unnecessary, or that it killed it being good, capturing all the momentum, and heading it down a dead end road, kind of like Disco after the BeeGees? (Not that disco was ever inspiring, but it got even more mechanical after the BeeGees made it popular and everyone started trying to do it that way.)

I have no opinion, actually, I just wasn't sure which you meant. I thought at first you meant that The Wall was so bad that it killed PR, but I couldn't quite understand how a bad album could make people not want to hear a good one, so then I was lost. Especially since I can't think of The Wall as a bad album.

[billyskank]

7. I don't know either

all I know is, after that, there was no more prog rock.

[St. Jarvitude]

11. .

Wrong

[billyskank]

13. Well I suppose there would have to be someone!

[Wat_Tyler]

14. No way are the Lips Prog Rock!

[jandrok]

20. I'd respectfully beg to differ.......

Tool

A Perfect Circle

Dream Theater

NIN

Queensryche

The Gathering (especially after they lost the more metallic elements of their music, although 1995's "Mandylion" is a masterpiece of prog-metal)

Many, many more......all prog or heavily influenced by the form.

Prog lives.........

[Touchdown]

23. Also Marillion and Saga

Saga's still around, and I think they're singing the final chapters of the 20 years long story of Albert (the locust).:eyes:

[jandrok]

24. Those are good additions....

I forgot about those guys. I was unaware that Saga was still around. They were great back in the day.

I'd add Kate Bush and Peter Gabriel to the list.

Tori Amos treads on the prog territory (especially "Under the Pink").

Laurie Anderson still performs and produces recordings.

King Crimson is still around (recently opened some tour dates for Tool).

All of these artists and many more are still producing experimental music, pushing the boundaries of what can traditionally be considered rock music. Prog has entered a new heyday, IMO. There's some great stuff out there.

[Touchdown]

25. Go find 2000's House of Cards.

You won't be dissapointed. Generation 13 is liked by Prog fans, but it's a bit heavy emotionally for my taste.

http://www.saga-world.com/

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

3. Other: yeah, that's why they kick butt. (nt)

[redqueen]

4. Sort of.

[Squeech]

6. No

because they don't actually rock much.

They do VERY LOUD AND POLEMICAL AMBIENT MUSIC.

Much of which, I hasten to add, I dearly love.

[Rabrrrrrr]

16. That is an excellent description!

I like that. Really loud and polemical ambient music!

There definitely is something very ambient about Floyd, even when they're full bore jamming.

[AngryAmish]

8. No, just boring

[democracy eh]

9. is there a universally accepted definition of prog rock?

then I can make an informed decision

[last_texas_dem]

10. Depending upon how loosely the term is applied

I've heard Queen and Black Sabbath lumped in with prog-rock before, so if they are considered it by some, Pink Floyd would definitely be. Defined very strictly, probably not, but I do think albums like Meddle and Atom Heart Mother are, Dark Side of the Moon is but not quite as much, by the time of The Wall only if the term is applied very loosely.

[derby378]

22. Black Sabbath "prog-rock?"

I never heard that - always heard them identified as metal, and one of the first purely metal bands.

I feel another discussion thread coming on...

[XNASA]

12. I don't think they ever played well enough to be a Prog Band.

I mean, love it or hate it, you still gotta be able to play well to be a Prog.

Example: Gilmore is no Howe.

[Osamasux]

15. I just call it 'music' and leave it at that.

[Rooktoven]

17. Excuse me,but Tull rocks.

I like Yes, too, but Tull is Aeons harder...

[jandrok]

21. Agreed

Tull was/is freaking awesome. Ian Anderson used to be billed as the Pied Piper of Heavy Metal for a reason.

[DainBramaged]

18. I always enjoyed my window pane more with a little Pink Floyd

They were and always will be acid rock. No others need apply.

[derby378]

19. Progressive Rock vs. Art Rock?

What's the difference? And where does Kate Bush (one-time protege of David Gilmour) fit in?