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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:05 PM
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Best Historical Book you have read?
I would prefer a singular answer (as I plan on making a history reading list), but if you cannot do that, I am game.

I imagine many answers will mirror mine, so please rule it out:

A People's History of the United States - Howard Zinn

The latter part of the second to last chapter (in the version I have) "The Bipartisan Consensus" and the last chapter "The Coming Revolt of the Guard", had me thinking more than any book I have ever read.
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:07 PM
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1. is this restricted to US history?
The best historical book I ever read was:

The Good Man of Nanking, the Diary of John Rabe.

Rabe was a German living in Nanking when the Japanese took the city in 1937. He and several other westerners worked together to establish the International Safety Zone and protect several hundred thousand Chinese refugees from the Imperial Japanese Army. Although the Rape of Nanking occured, his couragous defense of the Chinese people saved countless lives.

An amazing diary.
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:09 PM
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2. No not at all.
I am very interested in world history. Although completely understanding it would require 3 or 4 lifetimes, at best.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:10 PM
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3. An amazing, chilling book
Glad someone mentioned it

I'd also nominate King Leopold's Ghost, by Adam Hochschild (sp?) I think that is the author's last name...
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:26 PM
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12. I would also include Iris Chang's
The Rape of Nanking: The Forgotten Holocaust of WW2.
and Testamony by Hal Gold.

I want on a Japanese war attrocities kick 2 years ago... I saw a still from a film and could not believe that with a baccalaureate degree in history I'd never heard much about the Sino-Japanese war.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:10 PM
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4. Gore Vidal's "Golden Years"
"Burr". "Lincoln", "1876", "Centennial", are also quite good.
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:12 PM
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8. NVM
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 11:17 PM by FDRrocks
Search answered my own question: Are all those books written by Vidal?

Thanks.
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FauxNewsBlues Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 09:18 AM
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26. You forgot Vidal's best (IMHO)
Julian. Wonderful historical novel. Have read it about 10 times at least.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:10 PM
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5. American Aurora, by Richard Rosenfeld
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 11:12 PM by BurtWorm
On the most radical newspaper in America in 1798 and how it lost many battles before winning the war for freedom of the press and democracy. It opened my eyes about the whole revolutionary era.

Also recommend: The Metaphysical Club by Louis Menand and Cicero by Anthony Everitt.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:10 PM
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6. "Hard Times" by Studs Terkel
An Oral History of the Great Depression. Very enlightening, and as a member of the working class, very uplifting...people always get through the hardest of times if they can afford to build a community for each other and help each other out. Also, it's intersting to hear the same smears used aginst the left today are the same ones used back in the 30's. Terkel interviews both sides, and the rich conservatives of the USA have always outed themselves as greedy pigs as soon as they open their mouths.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:11 PM
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7. " A World Lit Only By Fire"
by William Manchester. It may not be the best book, but it is a good and easy-ish read. He covers a lot of ground. His last section is about heros, mainly Magellan.

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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:16 PM
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9. a unique one
Guns, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond. It's a brilliant thesis on how cultures develop based on various things, such as indigenous flora and fauna.
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electricmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 02:57 AM
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21. That was going to be my choice
But since you beat me to it I'll say War by Gwynne Dyer an excellent history of mans fight with himself. I would love to read his other book "Ignorant Armies: Sliding into War in Iraq" and after I make my next credit card payment I might just order it.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:21 PM
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10. "rise and fall of the 3rd reich" william shirer
its all there, buckaroo.
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Punkingal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:21 PM
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11. I really liked.....
Remembering America by Richard Goodwin. Very good book on the Kennedy and Johnson years.
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:26 PM
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13. Thanks!
I've been taking all these down to a list. Forgot to mention: when the title doesn't suggest the subject matter, please let me know, as this poster did.

The list I've gotten right now is going to take me at least 2 months alone. Love you, DU!
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:40 PM
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14. An American Melodrama...The Presidential Campaign of 1968
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:40 PM
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15. "Peter the Great" by .... hell I can't remember
Awesome awesome book.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:09 AM
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18. Robert Massie, IIRC
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Pert_UK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:46 PM
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16. Name of the Rose.....
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 11:48 PM by Pert_UK
OK, so it's fictional, but Umberto Eco manages to be so historically accurate that it made it onto the reading list for Theology and Philosophy in the Middle Ages at my university.

And it's one of the best books ever.

You could also try his Baudolino for an overview of more general crazy antics in Europe during the Middle Ages.

P.
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:21 AM
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31. The Nature of Spin
I had heard that Baudolino was "light-hearted," and I guess compared to Eco's previous works, it is. However, I had to stop reading it because the character's antics and self-spinning of history offered no "refreshment" from the current events in progress - Just couldn't stomach any more re-working of history. BTW, Eco is one of my favorite authors along with John Irving, S. Rushdie, and Michener for capturing the flavor of times past. I've tried some Pynchon (Mason&Dixon)and got through it eventually - maybe I'll try another one day.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:09 AM
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17. A Savage War of Peace....
...Alistair Horne's study of France's Algerian war 1954-1962.

Timely as hell.
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MinnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:20 AM
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19. two biographies should make this list
sorry for breaking the rule...

1. "The Life of Mahatma Ghandi," by (I'll go downstairs and get the author in a minute...a very complimentary but compelling and complete biography. When I feel like punching somebody -- say, after listening to a Shrub speech -- I go and read just a few direct quotes from Ghandi about nonviolence and humility and I feel much better.
2. "Adolf Hitler" by John Toland.....chilling in its detail and documentation. and more than 1,200 pages, so it is a chore, but it provides great insight in WWII and how we got where we are today. Also, it's nice to read something in which the Americans really are the good guys.

kind of at the opposite ends of the spectrum, I guess....

Oh, you could include "The Rising Sun," also by Toland. The story of WWII in the Pacific, with an incredible amount of it written from the Japanese point of view. Fascinating, and the account of the Bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki should be required reading for everyone...
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:25 AM
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20. Common Sense , Federalist Papers , Anti Federalist Papers
The Constitution , and the Declaration of Independance ..

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SPQR Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:35 AM
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22. A Distant Mirror:
The Calamitous 14th Century by Barbara Tuchman.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 09:07 AM
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24. Damn, SPQR, you took my recommendation!
"A Distant Mirror" is an amazing book. Really puts you in the 14th Century. Tuchman talks about everything, including things you might not think about, like fashion and the climate of the times. Fascinating.
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SPQR Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:06 PM
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33. Oddly
one of the things that stands out for me from that book are the pointy-toed shoes.
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Japhy_Ryder Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:44 AM
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23. The Soviet Experiment
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0195081056/qid=1063892514/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/002-7954576-0724814

an interesting read on how the USSR came about, ended and the cold war from the other side.
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Boudicea Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 09:11 AM
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25. A Distant Mirror: The Calamitous Fourteenth Century
Edited on Thu Sep-18-03 09:12 AM by Boudicea
Ya beat me to it!
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 09:20 AM
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27. Okay, Boudicea. Don't go attacking SPQR. I know you've got
a bone in your nose about the Romans! Keep cool!
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 09:20 AM
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28. Band of Brothers: E Company 506th Regiment 101st Airborne...
Band of Brothers: E Company, 506th Regiment, 101st Airborne from Normandy to Hitler's Eagle's Nest

As grippingly as any novelist, preeminent World War II historian Stephen Ambrose tells the horrifying, hallucinatory saga of Easy Company, whose 147 members he calls the nonpareil combat paratroopers on earth circa 1941-45.

Ambrose takes us along on Easy Company's trip from grueling basic training to Utah Beach on D-day, where a dozen of them turned German cannons into dynamited ruins resembling "half-peeled bananas," on to the Battle of the Bulge, the liberation of part of the Dachau concentration camp, and a large party at Hitler's "Eagle's Nest," where they drank the madman's (surprisingly inferior) champagne.

Of Ambrose's main sources, three soldiers became rich civilians; at least eight became teachers; one became Albert Speer's jailer; one prosecuted Bobby Kennedy's assassin; another became a mountain recluse; the despised, sadistic C.O. who first trained Easy Company (and to whose strictness many soldiers attributed their survival of the war) wound up a suicidal loner whose own sons skipped his funeral.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 09:26 AM
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29. I liked his "Don't Know Much About History".
A lot of interesting "what you didn't learn" factoids.
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soupkitchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 09:30 AM
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30. Dave Barry Hits Below the Beltway
The truth and nuttin but the truth
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redhead1954 Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:29 AM
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32. Reading right now
American Scripture - Making the Declaration of Independence by Pauline Maier.

Excellent book in my opinion.

Cheers,
Red
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