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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:18 PM
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Someone tell me why I should NOT move to Canada...
I read the books, and am ready to go job hunting. I scored a 77 without a job, and if I get a job I'm up to 87 (you need 67 to pass.)

So...besides the usual "stay here and fight" (I will still be voting if I move) why should I stay? Especially with these fundie whack-jobs running aound getting Man Dates?
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ogradda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:20 PM
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1. do you have a link to this test you took?
i'd like to see what i get :)
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:21 PM
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3. Here it is
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ogradda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:24 PM
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11. thank you
i can't wait to see what i get :)
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AndyP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:21 PM
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2. It's cold up there
Brrrrrrr. :scared:
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alevensalor Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:21 PM
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4. Because you can not abandon
the rest of us here. We need everyone we can get to win this thing. Sometimes, voting isn't enough, and this is our democracy, goddamn it!

We do have the power, we're half the population!

Those woods may be lovely, dark and deep, but it is my opinion we all have promises left to keep, and miles to go before we move to Canada.

Just my $.02

~A!
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 10:29 PM
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20. Howdy, neighbor
:hi:
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alevensalor Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 10:56 PM
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24. Howdy!
Are you looking in my window?


~A!:hi:
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 10:58 PM
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25. That depends ... do you live in the south eastern part of the state?
Edited on Fri Nov-12-04 10:59 PM by NewHampshireDem
If you do, then, YES!

On edit:

n/m ... I can't see all the way to Wilton ... too damn far west.
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alevensalor Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 11:08 PM
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26. So you're in what, Derry? Londonderry? Salem? n/t
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Guy Fawkes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:21 PM
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5. 7k dollar cover charge
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:22 PM
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6. You really should consider staying here cuz.... the new jobs pay at least
half of what the old jobs did... we are turning the corner... democracy is on the march... the eCONomy is ready to rumble... you can really trust our electoral process... and you can get all the man dates you want "after shrub of course". So why leave? Besides, I hear they have some really wacko websites up there.....

www.globalresearch.ca
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:22 PM
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7. It tends to be cold and you have to say "eh?"
Also, you will need to learn to like hockey. Aside from that, I can't think of any reasons. I took the test, too, and it looks like I need a few more points, so I guess I'll have to learn French, eh?
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HalfManHalfBiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:22 PM
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8. Most boring country in the world
Cold too.

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sadinred Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:23 PM
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9. I don't know how true it is but
I heard that Canada has closed it's doors to us. The only way in is if you are worth $400,000. or more. They've done this not because of the election results so much as predicted draft.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:49 PM
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16. Actually theyre encouraging migration of Skilled Professionals
Nurses, Doctors, Medical Specialists, IT folks (that's me) and other tech types are being sought after.

And Vancouver is pretty warm, by Canadian standards.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:24 PM
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10. Well, my mom sent me this:
Ten Reasons Not to Move to Canada
by Sarah Anderson

Ready to say screw this country and buy a one-way ticket north? Here are
some reasons to stay in the belly of the beast.

1. The Rest of the World. After the February 2003 antiwar protests, the New
York Times described the global peace movement as the world's second
superpower. Their actions didn't prevent the war, but protesters in nine
countries have succeeded in pressuring their governments to pull their
troops from Iraq and/or withdraw from the so-called "coalition of the
willing." Antiwar Americans owe it to the majority of the people on this
planet who agree with them to stay and do what they can to end the suffering
in Iraq and prevent future pre-emptive wars.

2. People Power Can Trump Presidential Power. The strength of social
movements can be more important than whoever is in the White House. Example:
In 1970, President Nixon supported the Occupational Safety and Health Act,
widely considered the most important pro-worker legislation of the last 50
years. It didn't happen because Nixon loved labor unions, but because union
power was strong. Stay and help build the peace, economic justice,
environmental and other social movements that can make change.

3. The great strides made in voter registration and youth mobilization must
be built on rather than abandoned.

4. Like Nicaraguans in the 1980s, Iraqis Need U.S. Allies. After Ronald
Reagan was re-elected in 1984, progressives resisted the urge to flee
northwards and instead stayed to fight the U.S. governments secret war of
arming the contras in Nicaragua and supporting human rights atrocities
throughout Central America. Iraq is a different scenario, but we can still
learn from the U.S.-Central America solidarity work that exposed illegal
U.S. activities and their brutal consequences and ultimately prevailed by
forcing a change in policy.

5. We Can't Let up on the 'Free Trade' Front Activists have held the Bush
administration at bay on some issues. On trade, opposition in the United
States and in developing countries has largely blocked the Bush
administrations corporate-driven trade agenda for four years. The President
is expected to soon appoint a new top trade negotiator to break the impasse.
Whoever he picks would love to see a progressive exodus to Canada.

6. Barack Obama. His victory to become the only African-American in the U.S.
Senate was one of the few bright spots of the election. An early opponent of
the Iraq war, Obama trounced his primary and general election opponents,
even in white rural districts, showing he could teach other progressives a
few things about broadening their base. As David Moberg of In These Times
puts it, 'Obama demonstrates how a progressive politician can redefine
mainstream political symbols to expand support for liberal policies and
politicians rather than engage in creeping capitulation to the right.'

7. Say so long to the DLC. Barry Goldwater suffered a resounding defeat when
he ran for president against Lyndon Johnson in 1964, but his campaign
spawned a conservative movement that eventually gained control of the
Republican Party and elected Ronald Reagan in 1980. Progressives should see
the excitement surrounding Dean, Kucinich, Moseley Braun, and Sharpton
during the primary season as the foundation for a similar takeover of the
Democratic Party.

8. 2008. President Bush is entering his second term facing an escalating
casualty rate in Iraq, a record trade deficit, a staggering budget deficit,
sky-high oil prices, and a deeply divided nation. As the Republicans face
likely failure, progressives need to start preparing for regime change in
2008 or sooner. Remember that Nixon was reelected with a bigger margin than
Bush, but faced impeachment within a year.

9. Americans are Not All Yahoos. Although I wouldn't attempt to convince a
Frenchman of it right now, many surveys indicate that Americans are more
internationalist than the election results suggest. In a September poll by
the University of Maryland, majorities of Bush supporters expressed support
for multilateral approaches to security, including the United States being
part of the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (68%), the International Criminal
Court (75%), the treaty banning land mines (66%), and the Kyoto Treaty on
climate change (54%). The problem is that most of these Bush supporters
weren't aware that Bush opposed these positions. Stay and help turn
progressive instincts into political power.

10. Winter. Average January temperature in Ottawa: 12.2°F.
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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:25 PM
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12. Go. Its a great place
I love Canadians. Some of the best people I ever met.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:27 PM
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13. same here
i have 83 w/o the job, 93 with it. Doing my best...
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:32 PM
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14. Because I have it under good authority that you do NOT know
all the words to the Canadian National anthem. :P

And, we would miss you here in Jesusland.
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 10:22 PM
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19. Oh Canada
...my home and native land
la la la la la la la
la la la laaaaa laaaaaaaaa laaaaaa

Will that get me in?

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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 10:37 PM
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23. no on two counts:
Edited on Fri Nov-12-04 10:37 PM by 101er
1. that's not really even close (it's "our home and native land" - ever been to a hockey game for cripes sake?

AND

2. You aren't Taverner - I know, 'cause I would recognize him.

:7

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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:05 AM
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27. You caught me...
...but I took the test and rated a 79. AND my mom was a Canadian citizen when I was born and most of my family is in Toronto and (deep breath) if it gets much worse here, I am only 45 minutes from the border so you better believe I am going to learn that anthem!!!


:scared:
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Sleepysage Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:32 PM
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15. Poutine... nuff said.
;-)
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:52 PM
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17. I won't try to talk you out of it.
I can't stand being in this country anymore either and have leaving as a longer term goal. I have to finish up getting my nursing degree first so that I will be employable, but once I do that, I definitely plan on leaving.

Anyway, who says you can't continue to fight from foreign soil?
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 10:00 PM
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18. I got a 79
with no arranged work too
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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 10:29 PM
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21. We're really nasty up here
and with no hockey, just itching for a fight.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 10:32 PM
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22. DId ya call gord?
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malmapus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:47 AM
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28. 54!!! I need to find a job up there first =(
bugger
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