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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 07:56 PM
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Saluting the Veterans...
My dad was WWII in the Army Air Corps. He didn't care to talk about his experiences in Europe; I suspect they were painful for him.

If he knew what has happened to this nation a week ago, he'd be here fighting with us if he could (he was a yellow-dog Democrat, too!)

The more I learn about what he faced, the more I see the immorality of the invasion of Iraq, especially now.

Every one of my uncles served in WWII, and several of my cousins served in Vietnam. My mom is still proud of being a "Rosie the Riveter;" she built bombers.

Thank you to my wonderful, strong, loving dad and all 9 of my uncles and 3 of my cousins; and to my mom and her "sisters."

And to all the DU veterans--Thank you!

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 08:05 PM
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1. Thanks to veterans
including my brother and my neighbor, both Viet Nam vets.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 08:06 PM
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2. Yer Welcome
20 years in the US Navy. (1984-2004)

I'd still be in if
a. Bush Sr. hadn't downsized us in '92, so I couldn't make rank
and
b. Bush Jr. hadn't downsized us in '03 so I couldn't stay in for failure to make rank.

60,000 sailors forced out in FY 2004.
More to be forced out in FY 2005.
Got to save money to force soldiers to stay in past thier time, after all.
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hollywood926 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 09:01 PM
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4. 12 years in the U.S. Navy....
I'd still be in if:

a) I wasn't a lesbian.

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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:21 AM
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15. Ouch....
I'll bet that was difficult wasn't it?
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 08:36 PM
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3. My grandpa was a World War II veteran
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 09:04 PM by ih8thegop
He was in the 98th Chemical Co., which served in the Asia-Pacific Theater.

He was a loyal Democrat throughout his life.

He died April 29 at the age of 81. :cry:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:31 AM
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5. Kick for those who served or are active and those of us who love them.
Give 'em our love, DU.

:kick:
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:35 AM
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6. I'll kick this one for Dad and F-I-L
Air Force and Army respectively...both in Korea.

:toast: SaaaaaLUTE!
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:37 AM
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7. Here's my bird:


Flew the RF-84/F, Alabama Air National Guard
'63-'71
What a hoot that was.
No, I didn't see George.
;-)
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:52 AM
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8. Hah! No one else saw Georgie either!
And my salute to all the other vets who served honorably.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:55 AM
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9. No. Thank you.
Serving this once-and-will-be-again great country is the proudest achievement of my life (other than my family). DU-ers make me realize that it was worth it. :-)
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:56 AM
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10. Vietnam Era Vet here
USN 1974 - 1977
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:58 AM
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11. My dad served from 1961-1964 in Vietnam
Here is the letter I sent to Mike Malloy last year -

Veterans Day was always been treated as a non-holiday in my house. My Dad would rarely, if ever, discuss his service, took no credit for his actions, and harbored a general disdain for the US government following his tours of duty.

Like so many others of current and wars past, he enlisted voluntarily. An act he describes as "the folly of youth". At 18 I wanted to join the service, which prompted the first time my father ever described some of his experiences in detail. One such story resounded:

(paraphrased)

We arrived Saigon to receive our detachment orders. The guy in charge of overseas operations explains that we are supposed to help the South Vietnamese army patrol an area of 35 miles around Nha Trang and engage and harass the enemy on sight. My CO turned to me and asked, "so Peewee, have you got the guts to kill?" I didn't know what to say. I was 19 years and what the hell did I know.

We flew into Nha Trang the next morning and the base was under heavy fire. The fighting lasted most of the morning, and eventually subsided. We lined up each wounded man and I began administering first aid. I was the medic and my first duty was to assess who could and could not be saved. My CO was wounded and lay there begging, "help me Peewee, help me!"But I had to step over him because in the time it would have taken to save him I would have to let three other men die. I did everything I could for everyone I could. It turned out the guts I needed to kill were there, but not in the way he expected.

A week later the same guy that gave us the "kill everyone" outside Nha Trang speech in Saigon showed up to take command at Nha Trang. Suddenly the mission changed, we were no longer allowed to venture outside the perimiter. From now on out mission would be guarding and maintaining the security of the base.

It was all bullshit.

(end story)

My Dad received several medals and commondations for his service, none of which he will discuss freely. I remember him giving my younger brother his Silver Star to use as part of a childhood Halloween costume (Han Solo for those interested), and I remember he had a box of other "stuff, junk, debris," as he called it, stowed away in the bowels of our family home. Inside were other bars, other medals, and bullets. Discussing them was never an option.

When it came time for the recruiter to take me for a physical my Dad, the 5.4" former Green Beret, "persuaded" him to leave without me and never to darken our doorstep again.

My Dad explained that he was always more concerned about being known for what was important. He was a Dad, a husband, a businessman, a plumber, a restaurant owner, these, he said, were the measure of his stature, not the experiences into which he was thrust as a wide eyed and naieve youth.

I have made it a family tradition to participate in Veterans Day services and rememberances here in New Hampshire, and I intend to teach my son to do the same. The day is far to important to be left to mattress and appliance sales, to lonely old men and cold stone monuments. Our veterans, all veterans, whether serving by circumstance or their own personal choice, deserve more. They deseve our gratitude and our support.

I call my Dad every Veterans Day and thank him, and I thank all the veterans with whom I work personally, and their humility humbles me. My father, Robert Louis DeRego, served in Vietnam from 1961-1964 with the Green Berets.

I have taken Siegfried Sassoon's words to heart, although written in 1919, and about years following a war so distant from us now, the words ring true and burn today as they did then. Have you forgotten yet?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:01 AM
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12. My dad was WWII and wouldn't discuss it either until his
grandson asked him about it; my son was proud of his grampa's service. Even than, my dad was sketchy at best.

That's why I thank God now for OpTruth.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 12:32 PM
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18. Thank you for that story.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:06 AM
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13. Here's another thread; great minds and all that!
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 10:06 AM by blondeatlast
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:12 AM
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14. My Dad Was a Marine
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 10:13 AM by CO Liberal
He was a recon photographer/tail gunner stationed at Kwajalein Attoll in the Pacific. He never talked much about his service either, except to say that he replaced a tail gunner that had been killed by enemy fire, and that he had been selected to be the Marine Corps' official photographer at the Japanese surrender ceremony on the USS Missouri. A higher-up pulled rank and went in Dad's place, and none of that guy's pictures came out.

Dad was a life-long Democrat. Next Tuesday would have been his 84th birthday - leukemia took him from us in 1991....

Semper Fi, Dad. I love you and still miss you.
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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:32 AM
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16. Good post....
Here's to my brother in law who served in Viet Nam from 1968-1972. He was never quite the same after he came back and ended his life by self inflicted gun shot 6 years ago.

Here's to my once neighbor who served in Viet Nam (date unknown) who would get uncontrollable shakes for no particular reason.

Here's to a friend who served in Viet Nam who became a homeless alcoholic.

Here's to a friend who joined the marines in 1962. He was part of the white house guard that stood silent post at Kennedy's casket while his soul was being ripped apart.

Here's to all the poeple who served our country with honor and dignity.....who sacrificed their families, their physical and mental well being and their lives. You are heros among men.
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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:42 AM
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17. Keep it kicked....
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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 01:46 PM
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19. Kickin again
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 01:48 PM
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20. It's not being ignored, just consolidating everything in
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 01:49 PM by qnr
DU VETERANS - FRONT AND CENTER! I think

Edit: left in the http:// corrected now
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Dzimbowicz Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 01:49 PM
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21. From a USMC vet
Thank you for your thank you, it means a lot.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 01:53 PM
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22. Some of my kinfolk served.
Dad was Army, circa 1947-49.
Brother was Air Force 1972-1996.
Brother was Naval Reserves circa Late 80's-early 90's.
My ex-SO was USMC 1969-70.

A salute to all of them today! :toast:
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:16 PM
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23. I salute our veterans today too
I thank my four brothers who served in the armed services and my brother in law, as well as all veterans who served our country.


Sonia
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HuskiesHowls Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:26 PM
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24. My Dad was in Italy in WWII
and about all that I ever heard about his experiences were how the Americans helped rebuild things. He especially talked about Monte Cassino, and all the relics that were lost there, so I've always had the feeling that he was there.
One other thing....he would not allow a gun in the house, of any kind!!!

As a youth, and teenager, I was around the American Legion hall a lot, around a lot of WWII and Korea vets. About all I heard was how the US helped others, but no war stories. I never knew what some of these guys went through, but later found out that I didn't want to know!!

Thanks to all of you, for allowing us to enjoy our freedoms!!!
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