My Economics Professor apologized for debating me on Kerry vs Bush

[GingerSnaps]

I missed my mid term examine and he is going to give me a C+ even thow I missed my mid term exam.

He apologized and he said that he understood why I was depressed. He also said that the reason that he told our class that Bush was going to win the election is because he had heard from other staff members and friends that Die-bold had rigged the election for Bush.

I can't believe that others know about Die-bold. The entire class was discussing it and even the two sisters from Minnesota agreed that Bush did not win the election legally.

My other Professor in one of my other classes said that he also knew about Bush and his cronies rigging the election.

People know about the rigged election and it's not just the members of DU or any other website like this one. The two Professors that knew about the rigged election today are from other countries and they said that the people back home know about it.

[BayStateBoy]

1. Most People Except Kerry Know about Diebold

If Kerry-Edwards don't request a recount, we can pretty much just give it up because nothing is likely to happen. No one takes seriously recount requests unless they come from the candidate(s).

I think Kerry is a fool not to request recounts in OH and particularly FL irrespective of whether his so called advisors think the votes are there. What there is out there is probably fraud and lots of it, and for him to ignore it is unconscionable.

1. Kerry promised that all the votes would be counted. 55 million Americans subscribed to that. He needs to fulfill his promise. I'm hearing nothing but severe criticisms of him here in Mass by people who voted for him. They won't forget or forgive.

2. There is a fine line between a quitter and a troublemaker. Kerry may not want to "make waves" thinking about 2008. But as far as I'm concerned, if he doesn't want to investigate these reports of possible fraud, then he's political roadkill. The soul of Democracy is the truth, and Kerry has to honor that before his own personal political agenda.

3. If we don't investigate, there is little if any hope that we will be able to mount a turnout like we just did. People stood in line for 10 hours to vote and we are willing to let their votes be thrown in the trash. Next time we need those voters they will stay home, so we are slitting out own political throats by not getting recounts.

4. If we don't demand recounts, the perpetrators will take it as an open invitation to commit the same frauds in 2006 and 2008. Kerry and the DNC are delusional. By not acting and fighting we are guaranteeing that all the setups will be in place for our future defeats and it will be a no win situation. We have to take a stand and fight now or else...

5. Elaborating on #4, recounts would serve to focus the national spotlight on the evils and unreliability of electronic voting. The measures in Congress to mandate a paper trail have been languishing for over 18 months. We have a small window of opportunity to act; if we don't we'll never get the electronic genie back into the bottle.

6. The history of voting in America is the history of vote recounts and rigged elections. Besides it's our Christian duty to recount the votes to insure that no crimes have been committed and the will of the people is being expressed accurately. The worst the Repugs could do is accuse us of being sore losers and we could take that charge and ram it back down their throats.

7. Even if the votes are recounted and the final results don't change we won't be hurt for trying. There is no evidence that fighting in FL in 2000 cost us any votes and it won't now. We have more votes to lose by not fighting and everything from a strategic political aspect.

[man4allcats]

4. I agree. All points well taken.

There is more than sufficient evidence for Kerry to act. I have no doubt there are countless news stories on the likelihood of this election having been rigged. I like the one at < http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1106-30.htm > because it shows not only the exit poll versus votes discrepancies but also how easily and quickly such fraud could be accomplished. I also like your statement in point #2: "The soul of Democracy is the truth, and Kerry has to honor that before his own personal political agenda." This seems to me to be the heart of the matter. We have had four years and two elections to learn that truth, the Constitution and the rule of law mean nothing to rethuglicans. For them, any means that accomplish an end are acceptable. If Lincoln were alive today to see the direction his party has taken, he would shoot his own self in the head.

[DemBones DemBones]

2. He's generously giving you a C+ so you won't turn his ass in for

in-class political proselytizing. Administrators don't look kindly on faculty doing that sort of thing.

P.S. Hold out for a B. Tell him you're so depressed you may have to talk to the dean. ;-)

[GingerSnaps]

5. I don't want the C+

I don't deserve a C+ because I didn't earn it. But, if he wants to play "hardball" I will take an A instead of a B. ;-)

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. he needs to go to BBV.ORG with anyting

he knows

[RevCheesehead]

6. which college? or, which state?

I'd like to get a better sense of how "out there" this thing is.

Is this a major university? college?