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sysoprock Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:05 PM
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Who is your favorite conservative pundit?
I don't want to hear any "they all suck!" answers either.

Who can present their points from the right and not leave you thinking they are a complete moron?

I would have to say Scarborough, he strikes me as "not as loony" as the rest.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:06 PM
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1. Man, I don't even like any of the liberal pundits...
Although Keith Olbermann is my favorite.
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sysoprock Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:07 PM
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2. I've gotta agree with you on that.
Olbermann is the man.
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:07 PM
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3. I especially like how he was able to keep a clear head...
...while he was covering up that murder.
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sysoprock Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:09 PM
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6. Leaving a body on the floor of your own office?
Yeah if he murdered that girl he did a superb job of covering it up.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:51 PM
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33. He did a great job
He convinced the press to run stories that she had a history of seizures, he convinced the medical examiner and police chief to claim their were no visible wounds or trauma to the body, and then admit they lied about that when they had a good excuse, and he then convinced the media to stop saying she had a history of seizures because it wasn't true.

He may not have killed her, but he certainly obstructed any chance to find out who did. And that's being generous.
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:07 PM
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4. PJ O'Rourke.
At least he's funny.
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helnwhls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:10 PM
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8. I read him too
He used to be the common ground for my very republican Dad.
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:11 PM
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9. "Modern Manners" is one of my favorite books ever.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:17 PM
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13. Me too, I was literally just reading this last night.
The chart with the appropriate responses to drugs is utterly hysterical.
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:17 PM
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14. I like the "polite funeral" section.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:21 PM
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17. And the thing about PJ is, he's an actual Republican.
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 12:27 PM by janesez
You know, smaller federal government, more states' rights, big huge powerful military, fiscal conservatism. As in "Bill Clinton was the best Republican president we've ever had." PJ doesn't really give a fuck about social issues, I don't think.

If Republicans were still actually Republicans, I might even be one.
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:25 PM
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24. O'Rourke couldn't care less about So-con, he's a fizzy.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:26 PM
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25. What's a fizzy?
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:26 PM
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27. A Fiscal Conservative. A fizzy-con.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:27 PM
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28. Yes.
That's what I thought.
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:28 PM
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29. Don't worry. I think I'm responsible for the term.
In fact, I may have just made it up in the last five minutes.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:30 PM
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30. Heh.
I made up the word "observifation" yesterday. For "Observation". Just came out and then I liked it and started using it constantly.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:26 PM
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26. Dupe post-sorry.
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 12:26 PM by janesez
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:08 PM
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5. to do what to?
Actually I don't mind George Will. He doesn't answer a question by regurgitating talking points whole. Instead he is--gasp! am I about to use the dreaded word--thoughtful.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:10 PM
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7. Barbara Olson
because she's dead.

Oh, sorry, didn't see the second sentence "Who can present their points from the right and not leave you thinking they are a complete moron?" With that limitation, I can't think of any.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:11 PM
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10. Paul Begala
Prowar and likes George W. Bush. "I like him" "I remember him from Texas. ha ha ha"
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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:13 PM
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11. Charley Reese has strongly voiced his contempt for Smirk; he hasn't minced
any words about his feelings.
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markbark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:15 PM
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12. William F Buckley
A "True" conservative.
Erudite, calm and frightenly intelligent.
Moreover, he can make a lucid argument that DOESN'T devolve into a shouting match.

I read his work and think "Hmm... the guys got a point. I don't AGREE with it, but it least you can understand the position"

With MOST RWP's (right wing pundits) I think "GEEZ what a pinhead" or "I thought the Mossad mopped up all those guys YEARS ago <grin> "


--MAB
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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:18 PM
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15. he's the one.
literate, well spoken, a thinker. He can convince or argue without resorting to abuse.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 01:18 PM
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37. I've seen a video clip of him threatening to:
"...smash you in the damned face..." to Noam Chomsky.

Hardly non-abusive.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:24 PM
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23. Average mind, excellent vocabulary
Not much of a fan of Buckley. He's like a reverse Hemmingway, grand language but deceptively simple. The old school pundits like Buckley, though, at least are conservatives and say what they believe. From Limbaugh forward, conservative pundits only spout the party line, even if it disagrees with last week's party line. No integrity.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:19 PM
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16. Pat Buchanan
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 12:27 PM by Misunderestimator
ok, damn it... had a brain fart... I meant Buchanan
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:22 PM
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18. Buchanan, by default
I like his attitude, don't like his views. He is honest, though, unlike the majority.

And I agree with the first post, I don't like liberal pundits, either
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:23 PM
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20. You gotta love a guy who says "There's no way all those Jews
voted for me."

Paraphrased, but you know what I mean.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 01:05 PM
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35. Yeah, you really "gotta love" someone who knows he's an anti-semite
Talk about the soft bigotry of low expectations.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 02:05 PM
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42. Well, of course he's an Anti-Semite. He's Pat Buchanan.
That's his THING. My point is that he basically said, "Look, these people don't like me and I don't like them. There's no way those votes are mine." He is honest, though bigoted.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:22 PM
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19. Pat Buchanan
Of course I think in terms of his views he is a xenophobic maniac, but he is one of the few pundits who doesn't take himself too seriously. He's got a good sense of humor and can take a hit without getting nasty.
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sysoprock Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:24 PM
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22. I agree.
He's a wacko but I read about some of the things he said in his latest book, and he brings up some good points.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:23 PM
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21. Bill Buckley
He's got an impish side. Thrity years ago, he was sort of the Jon Stewart of the right.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:31 PM
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31. yeah his diction makes me laugh
he has a very dry wit, which I like. After that it would be PJ O'ROurke.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 01:35 PM
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39. I like Buckley, at least he's smart
Most of the conservative pundits are idiots like Sean Hannity, or psychos like Ann Coulter.

Buckley is from the old days, when you didn't insult someone just because you disagree with him or her.
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sysoprock Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:35 PM
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32. The best thing about DU is that we can actually have this discussion.
Imagine a "who is your favorite liberal pundit" thread over at FreeRepublic.

First off, the original poster would be banned, then every single reply would contain the words "traitor", "communist", "bitch" or a permutation of the three.
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LibLover Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 01:02 PM
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34. Rush
I haven't listened to him long enough to know what he says (he makes my head hurt). I do, however, admire him greatly for working so hard to get to the top of his profession.

Alcoholism runs in my family, so I can also respect his ability to stay functional even with his addiction to drugs. I've seen firsthand how addiction can ruin a person's job performance.

He must be doing something right. Someone listens to him. :eyes: I don't know who, but someone does. Somewhere. Maybe. Not that anyone admits.
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 01:06 PM
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36. BWAHAAHAAHAAHAA!
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 02:00 PM
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40. If truth be told I bet he has no where near
the 22 million listeners he used to brag about.
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ZenLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 02:17 PM
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44. O, sure. I'd respect rush too.
If he wasn't such a liar, and a hypocrite, and an idiot to boot.

rush tells his audience what they like to hear. He exaggerates, makes things up, and flat out lies to further the Hallucinatory world in which his dittoheads like to live in. He is one of the primary reasons that the majority of conservatives still think Saddam was behind 9/11, that Iraq had Weapons of Mass Destructions, that Bill Clinton could have had Osama Bin Laden in custody years ago, that Hillary is a racist murderess, that ANWR really doesn't support many animals at all and drilling there would have a low impact on wildlife.

He fabricates daily, spinning the events of the world such that they do not contradict this conservative fantasyland. He speaks to their fear - a deeply bred fear of anything different than their myopic way of life. Fear of liberals, for we're all weak and dragging the system down. Fear of homosexuals, for they're all pedophiles. Fear of those who wear turbans and pray to a different god, for they're all terrorists.

He scoffs at Jerry Garcia's untimely death, despite his own dangerous addictions.

I guess if rush didn't do any of that, I might respect him too.
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 01:19 PM
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38. Muddleofthe road n/t
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 02:01 PM
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41. LOL!
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 02:06 PM
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43. George Will
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 02:40 PM
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45. agree
Will at least TRIES to reason his arguements....
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