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the Princess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 02:30 PM
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I want opinions on something please. :)
This is the first time I am starting a thread too :)

Anyway - I know this couple. They are an older couple and they attend Ren Fairs all the time. The husband has a hand puppet of a Dragon he wears to these fairs - named - TWEAKERS.

I just found out (from the wife) why they named it Tweakers. According to her the puppet got his name because

"When he sees a well endowed women at the fairs he *TWEAKS* her" Yes - the husband uses the dragon puppet so he can grab women's breasts - in fact assaulting them.

I am appalled and outraged by this. If he EVER did that to me he would lose his ability to have an erection.

Is this the kind of thing a woman could have him arrested for?

And

My best buddy in Texas is creating a new Ren Faire and this couple will be going to his faire when it opens. Will he have any responsability as far as knowing what this guy is all about and being held responable if a woman wants to file charges?? I'm worried about this I don't want him to get caught up in this.

Any thoughts?
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 02:32 PM
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1. Yes. It is considered to be an assault.
Now, is it my imagination or did Pete get smaller? I miss the old Pete! But, I like the other picture, too.
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the Princess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 02:33 PM
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2. Yes
Pete got smaller! LOL

The other pic is me!
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 02:46 PM
Response to Reply #2
7. Nice. I'm having trouble deciding which picture to use as part
of my signature line - there are sooooo many! Like this one for example:

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the Princess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:02 PM
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13. Oh see 101er
Now you're just being mean with the pics! LOLOL
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:25 PM
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24. now - go away or I shall taunt you again!
Edited on Fri Oct-08-04 03:33 PM by 101er


:7
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the Princess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:46 PM
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26. Ooooooooooohhhhhhhhh
That one hurt!! LOLOL
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:52 PM
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29. This one oughta put you right over the edge!


this one is my personal favorite:



Okay - now I've done myself in! I'm glad this is your thread that I high jacked!
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the Princess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:57 PM
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30. *pout*
You can be really vicious when you want to be. LOL

Hey you can hyjack my threads anytime with pics of Strummer. :)
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #29
38. OH. MY . GOD.
i had not scrolled down....*fans self with hand, in futile attempt to ward off 'Attack of the Vapours'*
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 05:00 PM
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37. I lust after the images in your pics here
GAWD! They are so FUCKING COOL! I'm Listening to them right now! can you hear them?
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 05:07 PM
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40. I've got more - just follow me around and you'll see!
Yes, I can hear them you are now listening to: Safe European Home!
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 02:35 PM
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3. tweaks
Maybe he likes keeping "Abreast" of the situation
You dont want them to go out of business, then they would go
"Tits Up"
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 02:39 PM
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4. You better believe one can have him arrested.
Edited on Fri Oct-08-04 02:40 PM by Misunderestimator
Apparently (on another thread here) some people think that a man who is not yet an adult can do such a thing (and worse) to a female classmate who is not yet an adult and it shouldn't be considered a crime, but since this is happening to adults... absolutely! I would not HESITATE to report him to the police. What a sick man, btw. Pretending that it's all so innocent because he wraps his abuse in a puppet. :mad:

On edit... I just now realized you meant, does the person holding the fair have a responsibility, knowing in advance what might happen. I don't really know about that, but he should, if he allows the man to attend (and if he has any recourse to not allow him).
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 02:41 PM
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5. I'd beat the shit out of him
Edited on Fri Oct-08-04 02:42 PM by Michigan Voter
My husband is too much of a sweetie to do that - but he'd call the police.

My breasts are not for public use.

Edited because I realized he's probably bigger than I am. OK so I'd *try* to beat the shit out of him.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 02:41 PM
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6. In most states it should equate to an assault charge
Edited on Fri Oct-08-04 02:42 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
although the wording of laws/statutes varies from state to state. The operator of the fair can only be held liable under most scenarios if it can be proved he knew or should have known the guy would do this.
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 02:46 PM
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8. I don't think your friend could be held liable for that man's actions
That old fucker's wife is just as disgusting as he is if she condones such behavior. Oh well. Maybe she's just been abused so long she doesn't see that what he's doing is assault.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 02:48 PM
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9. I would imagine so...And I cannot imagine his wife being "okay" with
that, ever. I'd cold cock him if he tried it on me.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 02:49 PM
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10. if it wasn't abuse
all men would have dragon puppets, no?
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 02:55 PM
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11. I Wouldn't
As I see it, this guy is a pig, his wife is an enabler, and I intend to do whatever I can to help my friend keep this guy off the grounds of his Ren Faire.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:00 PM
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12. His wife is most definitely an enabler. I would get in contact with local
authorities and find out exactly what should be done, and what liabilities there would be for him, and what actions he should take to ensure that either he not allow the man on the premises or that he's at the very least protected from liability. And if they say that he would not be liable, I would make damn sure to have someone follow him around to catch him red-handed and charge him if it happens.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:02 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. I Have a Very Small Digital Camera
And I'm not afraid to use it!

:-)
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the Princess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:07 PM
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17. I think that is what I am gonna do
I am gonna talk to my friend and make sure he knows how serious this could be for *him* and the women who may be assaulted and then I will find out from local authorities what the faire owners liabilities are. He is the owner and the land where the faire wil be held is also owned by him - I would hate to see him lose everything because this old fucking pervert can't keep his hands to himself.

I am also gonna suggest to him that he tell this pervert to leave the puppet at home - and if he can't say this to him - I WILL!

I already told him (since Wayne and I are gonna be performers in this faire) that he better keep an eye on this guy and keep him far away from me - as I do have a whip - and I know how to use it. Seriously.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:18 PM
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21. LOL... I Love that! You go with the whip and all!
:thumbsup: :D
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the Princess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:50 PM
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28. I have a nickname :)
Kitten with a Whip :evilgrin:
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 04:42 PM
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33. And She DOES Have a Whip
Trust me on this...
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the Princess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:03 PM
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50. Yes a Big BLACK bullwhip............
Be afraid be very afraid!! Mwahahahahahahaha
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daddybear Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:05 PM
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15. As a former puppeteer in churches...
I find he is a REAL NUT CASE!!!!! Amazed his wife doesn't put her hand up his butt and make him chatter.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:06 PM
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16. You know, Ren Faires are kinda risque to begin with........
I was once serenaded by two comely lasses who sang a little ditty in which they mock fought over me because, according to the song, I was so well endowed. Now of course, these ladies only sang because they were paid for it....

But you don't hear me complainin'.

My advice is, if you're timid about this sort of thing, stay away from Ren Faires.

"Would ye enjoy a smoked turkey leg?"
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:08 PM
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18. Risque, Mavbe ... But Assault is Assault
Regardless of where it happens, IMHO.
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the Princess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:10 PM
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19. I think
A song about how well endowed you are and grabbing a woman's breast are two VERY different things.

But I'm a woman I'm funny about who grabs my breasts.

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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:17 PM
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20. True enough.
And if I were a woman, and something like that happened to me, I'm sure that I would slap the guy. And I'm sure that after getting slapped a few times, the guy would probably get the message.

I'm just saying, Ren Faires aren't exactly Disneyworld. There's lots of beer, lots of cleavage and quite a bit of risque shenanigans.

If you're shy about that kind of thing, a Ren Faire probably isn't the place for you.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:25 PM
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25. I've been to the Texas Renaissance Faire many times.....
They're celebrating their 30th anniversary this year. I don't have a problem with risque shenanigans.

But if some bozo tried that on me he'd get a face full of beer. Even at RenFest prices.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:33 PM
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54. Shy about that kind of thing?
Only women who are fine with being groped by complete strangers should go someplace that isn't like Disneyland?
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:21 PM
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22. I thought maybe the dragon was into crystal meth...nt
Sid
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KinkyDem Donating Member (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:24 PM
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23. As a former Renie ...
I would have to say that the stories you are being told are exagerated at best.

If these people are regulars and are known in the circuit and they go about tweaking the breasts of good sports they will and should have no problems.

I am willing to bet that he does not do this with patrons or even with renies he does not know.

I've seen and done some pretty wild and maybe even illegal things at the local ren fair. I wouldn't worry about it too much. On the other hand, if this guy picks the wrong person, on the wrong day he could have some real problems.

Don't believe the bragging. If he's being truthful, he'll get his.
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the Princess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 03:49 PM
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27. OK see you don't knwo this guy :)
He does this at Ren Faires yes - but he has also brought this puppet to another event that had nothing at all to do with Ren Faires - it was an event about size rights - and he did the same thing. He is out of line - Ren Faire or not.........
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 04:00 PM
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31. I've gotta put up one more post for you so that your first thread
is officially a winner - even if we got a bit sidetracked



http://www.vh1.com/shared/media/news/images/s/Strummer,_Joe/sq_at_mic_1982.jpg
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the Princess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 04:15 PM
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32. Oh man
Le-puff Le-pant Le-meow row

LOL

Other than Pete there has never been a hotter man in Rock n Roll.
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 05:06 PM
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39. oh christ I so wanted to marry Joe Strummer
I can't believe he died. :cry:
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 05:09 PM
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41. Don't get me started or we'll all be crying!
:cry: too late!

Not exactly how this thread started mind you, but I knew MrsCOLiberal was a Joe fan before I posted the first picture.



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the Princess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 05:37 PM
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42. TAKE THAT!
Edited on Fri Oct-08-04 05:38 PM by Mrs.COLiberal
PETE!!!!!!!! What the hell is it about skinny guys with an attitude???? LOL

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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 05:43 PM
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43. 'tay - LOL - kinda like this game. The one of pete that gets me is the
Edited on Fri Oct-08-04 05:43 PM by 101er
Rolling Stone photo with the blood running down his hand - now that's dedication.

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the Princess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 05:58 PM
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47. How did you know that Rolling Stone cover is my all time favorite pic
of Pete!? I LOVE IT - such passion!



An older but really sexy Pete.

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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:14 PM
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52. OMG - look at those blue eye - holy shit!
oooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh





"You are WELCOME"
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the Princess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 05:47 PM
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45. And THAT!!
Have you been to http://www.petetownshend.com They now have a new option - WHO TV - live feed of rehearsals and other such stuff.



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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 05:49 PM
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46. Oh Lord - I remember that - it's the windmill in Won't Get Fooled
Again - notice huge rip in shirt. My friends and I used to go see the Kids are Alright the way other people went to see Rocky Horror Picture Show!
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the Princess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:00 PM
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48. Me too
I can't even tell you how many times I've seen it. And one of our pay channels TRIO shoes it from time to time - poor Wayne when it's on I watch it every time. LOL
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #48
51. Brandy on the 'eel, brandy on the 'eel
I can't do that - you couldn't afford me!

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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 04:48 PM
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34. I hope a woman he does this to has a puppet to scrunch his balls
really hard. A puppet like a shark or something. I bet the son of a bitch NEVER would do that again!
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #34
36. Or Strong Leg Muscles...
...to administer a swift groin kick.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 04:49 PM
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35. I hope a woman he does this to has a puppet to scrunch his balls
really hard. A puppet like a shark or something. I bet the son of a bitch NEVER would do that again!
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 05:45 PM
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44. Well if you tell him (the organizer) then he knows and is partly liable
if anything happens. But you have to tell him to be able to live with yourself. So you should and he then needs to send the asshat a letter (registered or certified, return receipt requested and all that crap) to the effect that he is welcome to come to the fair, but if he touches anyone in any inappropriate way whatever, he will be arrested. "We have received repeated complaints about your behavior at other events in the past" etc. Hopefully the asshat will decide to take his nasty dragon puppet elsewhere.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:01 PM
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49. It's not assault
It's battery.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:26 PM
Response to Reply #49
53. you are correct - I see that the guy is just an idiot and
Edited on Fri Oct-08-04 06:28 PM by 101er
isn't threatening them with harm or using physical force which would qualify as assault. Bottom line: it's a chargeable offense and he needs to cut it out.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #49
57. BTW- with that screen name, I would have to be a fool to
challenge you! Here's Delaware's rule on offensive touching which seems to fit the description.

11 Del. C. §§ 601 Offensive touching; unclassified misdemeanor; class A misdemeanor.

(a) A person is guilty of offensive touching when the person:

(1) Intentionally touches another person either with a member of his or her body or with any
instrument, knowing that the person is thereby likely to cause offense or alarm to such other person;

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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:33 PM
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55. Yep, he would be arrested... unles he is the Governor of CA
or his name is Kennedy.
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 06:48 PM
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56. Tweakers?
Sounds like a coupla crackheads to me!
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