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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 10:20 AM
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Teachers: Would you staff George Bush if he was in your class?
Teachers: Would you staff George Bush if he was in your class?

(Staffing is formally bringing a student to the attention of administration and counselors for either behavior or academic concerns)

I'm surprised that teachers would vote for this man. Voting for Bush is kind of like voting for the worst of the students we see in our classroom.

His oral language is delayed relative to age. He seems to be proud that he doesn't read much. He isn't prepared. He has gotten by so far with cramming and crib notes instead of learning and by virtue of his enabling parents (his connections). He won't admit mistakes and tends to blame his shortcomings on others. He bullies when he's with his gang, using peer pressure to get others to agree, but he seems to have trouble facing conflict when he's by himself.
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skylarmae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 10:23 AM
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1. touche'
My vote - staff him.
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Wwagsthedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 10:41 AM
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2. I'd staff him
And I wouldn't use any lubricant on the staff when I put it where the sun doesn't shine.
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 10:46 AM
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3. I'm not a teacher, but one thing is PAINFULLY obvious....
Bush is a shining example of where the practice of social promotion has gotten us.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:01 AM
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4. I wouldn't even let Bush "learn" our kids....
I don't think he'd pass as a teacher's aid.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:22 AM
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5. I haven't found a single colleague yet...
including the diehard repubs, who will be voting for *. His name is a dirty word among all the teachers I know; and I know a big bunch of them. Some are republicans; not many, but I live in a pretty hardcore republican stronghold, and some teachers come from republican backgrounds. But I haven't found one voting for *.

Would I "staff" him? If he'd joined my 5th grade class this year, I'd have already taken him to our student study team; psychologists and teachers. We'd be looking at the real possibility of legitimate learning disabilities.

And I would have already conferenced with his parents about his social issues, about personal responsibility, about a respectful attitude, and about commitment to learning.

In the real world, I've already started the process for an SST meeting for one student; conferenced with 4 parents about academic and social concerns; had a lunchtime meeting with the school psychologist and special ed teacher about one student, another lunch time meeting with a special ed teacher about another student, and scheduled 14 more parent conferences for the next 3 weeks to document regarding their children's special needs. School has been in session for 4 weeks.

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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 02:16 PM
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13. bingo!
We'd be looking at the real possibility of legitimate learning disabilities.

See my reply below. :thumbsup:
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:07 PM
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18. Yes.
It screams out at those of us who have spent time with LD kids, doesn't it?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:35 AM
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6. yes, I would
I am an LD teacher and he is so obviously LD it's sad.

Some traits I have noticed that I also see in my students:

impulsivity
speech articulation disorder
language disorder (specifically word retrieval problems)
funky facial expressions
that lost look he has on his face so much of the time (it is especially apparent on 9/11 while listening to the story in that classroom)
pigheaded, stubborn
history of alcoholism


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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 02:17 PM
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14. yes. n/t
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:11 PM
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7. If you tried to staff him, you'd be fired.
Edited on Sat Oct-02-04 12:11 PM by ReadTomPaine
That's the history of his life.

RTP
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:16 PM
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8. If you mean by "staff" to beat him with one, yes I would
:evilgrin:
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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:50 PM
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9. Yes.
Can you imagine the paperwork that would go along with it?
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 12:54 PM
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10. I can't believe any teacher
could be a repukelican if they truly cared for his or her profession.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 02:08 PM
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11. Depends on a person's goals.
There are plenty of hardcore RW teachers as it can easily become a position of unassailable power & authority over others, combined with a mandate to have them learn whatever you say.

For many ideological right wing types, this is as close to heaven as they will ever get.

RTP
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 04:12 PM
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17. Got a point
I didn't look at it that way.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 02:15 PM
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12. watching the debate, it dawned on me.
I think the man's seriously learning disabled. I mean it. The way he fumbles for words and mangles the language says LD to me.

Not that he should be made fun of for that - those are the kids I teach. He's also surpassingly incurious about the world, wilfully ignorant. I'll gladly make fun of him for that. :D

But yes - if he weren't in my class, he'd need to be.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 02:36 PM
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15. Unfortunately, there would be no option but to exclude him..
Due to his dreadful influence on the other children. Look how dear little Tony has changed since they started playing together!
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 02:46 PM
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16. well, Tony had some questionable behavior
before we put George in the class, and he's been the only one who keeps being pulled off-task by George's antics. Still, we might need to reevaluate for a behavior disorder in both lads. ;-)
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