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TheBigGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 06:29 PM
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Poll question: Gay or Straight.? How do u identify
How do you self-identify?

I've put bisexual in there for the few folks who really do self-identify as bisexaul.

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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 10:22 AM
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1. Thanks for including bi...
...even with the disclaimer of sorts. There are actually a lot of bisexual people out there, but many of us just allow ourselves to be identified as gay or staight depending on current relationship because of bi-phobia and the tendency for people to always question whether or not the person is really bi.

I think bi-visibility is very important. There are so many people out there that don't know how to come out or feel they have no place coming out because they aren't exclusive in their attraction to the same gender.
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TheBigGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 10:49 AM
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4. bi
I guess I am bi, too. But I dont really self ID that way as my orienation is stronger in one of the two directions.

I am curious, tho, as to what the %s are going to be in this poll.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 10:58 AM
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6. whatever it will do it will dispell the freeper myths
I just think it will be majority straight but to the freepers we're all fags heh thats kinda funny when 60-80% are hetero. Thats one of the funniest myths about liberals that they are all fags. I am straight myself.
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synthia Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 06:17 PM
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26. Bi here as well.
Why limit mmy options???
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 10:23 AM
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2. Human
.
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TheBigGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 10:47 AM
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3. Ill put you down as "undecided". n/t
x
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searchingforlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 10:56 AM
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5. I took the poll but
I absolutely don't care one way or the other what consenting sexual beings do in private.
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FDRLincoln Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 11:01 AM
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7. straight
Straight as an arrow married hetero male here, but gay and bi-friendly. I don't care what people do in the bedroom as long as everything is consensual. And I also think gay people should have full marraige rights. Human sexuality is a wonderful, diverse thing.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 11:23 AM
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9. What "full marriage" rights
don't you think they should have? Which ones do you think they should have? Are you against civil unions? Or just using the term marriage?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 11:29 AM
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10. he's for gay marriage it looks like me it looks like
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FDRLincoln Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 11:52 AM
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14. yeah
Yes, that's right. I'm for gay marraige and civil unions. Makes perfect sense to me.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 11:57 AM
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15. another hetero yours truly says cheers to that
I got no problem with it you know why hell they should be able its love man and it doesnt hurt heteros one bit contrary to public belief.
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carolinayellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 11:22 AM
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8. Biphobia is ubiquitous
But no matter how much pressure is exerted to make people deny their true nature (and the way the question is posed exerts some not-so-subtle pressure), at some level the truth is undeniable.
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soupkitchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 11:46 AM
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11. Did you notice that straight is at 69%
very interesting
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soupkitchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 11:48 AM
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12. Vote changed
sorry
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 11:49 AM
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13. how come because us liberals are always called fags I see 69 hehe
thats totally straight people. Oh I see what you mean 69 hehe got me there.
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thermodynamic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 12:29 PM
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16. So much for the right wing belief that 96% of liberals are queer
:-( :-( :-(
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 12:31 PM
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17. why does that make you sad heteros are cool too
Besides a straight liberal is better than a gay conservative a la RFK a straight liberal is better than Roy Cohn a gay conservative and vice versa applies Barney Frank a gay liberal is better than Newt Gingrich a straight conservative not I did not say Bob Barr because of how he fawns over Reagan.
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thermodynamic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 01:03 PM
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18. A mostly solid argument!
Well, most straight liberals are better. That's the trouble with human nature, even the best intentional stereotype can be faulty.

I know a Democrat acquaintance of mine would would do me bodily harm if he knew I was a homo. I can't say more on the subject, but not all Dems are good. :-(

And there are the occasional conservatives who know I'm a homo and have no problem with it and are accepting of me. Doesn't make them all bad.

But I do agree entirely with the namedropping you mentioned! :-)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 01:08 PM
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19. I didnt say democrats man
democrat doesnt always mean liberal. Remember Strom Thurmond once considered himself a democrat and Trent Lott. I know a fairly conservative girl whos accepting she was ok about my cousin adopting now heres the irony I was arguing with a conservative whos just about anti gay as you can be but yet he acts very well gay not a thing wrong with that of course but its very strange. Is this aquaintance a coworker? You must not be the sterotypical gay. The only conservatives that really accept are true ones.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 02:33 PM
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20. Straight, but gay-friendly.
I can't understand being threatened by someone else's sexuality.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 02:53 PM
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21. That is because you can't be
You can only be threatened by your own sexuality. Poor poor confused repugs http://www.datalounge.com/datalounge/news/record.html?record=2970
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election_2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 03:20 PM
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22. my affiliation
proud gay college boy...and Pagan/polytheist to boot! :party:
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Gringo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 03:21 PM
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23. I put straight
But I "experimented" a bit in my youth, and it was okay. I sure as hell wouldn't waste my time feeling guilty about it.

The idea doesn't appeal to me much now, though.

I prefer women, and monogamy personally.

I still hesitate to put "straight" though. It sounds so staid and rigid. Also, like many have mentioned, being a liberal, I've gotten called "fag" for it too, and I hate to say I'm not, because that makes out "gay" to be an insult, which it should not be....

Usually, I say something like "Okay, I'm a big fag, and you're still wrong."

Don't really know of any clever comebacks for that kind of shit.

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TheBigGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 05:15 PM
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25. the term "straight"..
..actually came out of the gay/lesbian communit, and is an artificat of a time when straight did mean staid and rigid...
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TheBigGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 05:11 PM
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24. more bisexual people than gay people?
Edited on Sat Jul-12-03 05:11 PM by TheBigGuy
...at DU? Thats interesting!
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 09:58 PM
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27. Perfectly straight here
n/t
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 10:04 PM
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28. Show tune singing,
friend of Dorothy here.
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bocadem Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 10:09 PM
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29. I'm a big ole homo
wheeeeeeeee!

;)
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:26 PM
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33. From Boca?
Well honey, we just assumed!
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 10:12 PM
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30. Recent research
On the nature of sexual attraction suggests that there is a difference between men and women on the nature of how strongly they are drawn to a particular gender. Men it seems are more often fixed on the particular gender they are attracted to and less likely to be aroused by the opposite. That is a hetrosexual male will not be as likely to be aroused by another male while a homosexual male will not be aroused by a female.

Conversely females tend to be more open towards what arouses them. A homesexual or hetrosexual female are both likely to be aroused no matter the gender that they are observing.

This may have some social impact on why female homosexuals seem to enjoy more acceptance in society than males do. Males socially are seen as aggressors. Females are seen as nurturing and caring. Thus combinations such as male/female and female/female are not seen as unatural because there is a nurturing component. But male/male place two aggressors in a nurturing position. This is socially jarring. Add into the mix this recently discovered propensity for males to be more exclusive and you have a potential explanation for the biases found in society.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 10:16 PM
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31. I like girls so much, I even married one
That's just me.

Whatever anyone does. that's just them.

Isn't that the way it ought to be?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:30 PM
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35. Yeah? Well, I like girls so much, I wanted to be one.
For a couple of years, anyway.
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Norm357 Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 10:26 PM
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32. I am
straight but not narrow minded. The wife is BI tho. Tuesday nights are a lot of fun for Norm!!!
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:27 PM
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34. I consider myself bi..
....but this is just my own labeling because while I feel attracted to women (I am a woman), I love men. In fact, I'm more sexually attracted to men, but there are some women out there that I also feel sexually attracted to. It's about 70% men, 30% women by my own figures.
A male friend said women are "naturally bisexual". I don't know if I fully agree with that statement, but I've talked to my girlfriends, and they seem to agree with that.
In any case, because I like men *more* than women, I may be classified as straight. I don't care what you call me...I'm just me, and quite happy with me.
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