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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:17 PM
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Have you lost friends or family because of this election?
A very dear friend of 20 years will not talk to me because of this elction..He thinks I'm crazy and I'm pissed that he is not even willing to listen. HIS brother in law is a dem that has been also trying and he is not talking to him either.

I feel sad.......
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:18 PM
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1. yep and thiese are truly prelims for a civil war
that is what worries me
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artboy Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:24 PM
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5. kinda...but
not lost any (Yet??) that is...but we have had some very heated moments ...most of the folks I talk to about this are Bushenites...extremly narrow minded.......they refuse to see any other angle when it comes to him. So we all have just agreed to disagree...and talk about everything EXCEPT politics.....I have also pissed a few folks off with my emails....heheheh....I just love to stir the pot...:grr:
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:20 PM
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2. No
My best friend is a hard core repuke, but we find area where we both agree and just don't talk about the rest. No matter what happens, your friends and family should be number one. I'm not saying you should set aside your beliefs or stop working for Kerry, but there comes a time when you realize your friend or family member cannot be changed, so if you value that relationship, you should take politics off the table.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:22 PM
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4. Many of mine have had to leave the country to look for work..... n/t
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:21 PM
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3. I have a repub friend and we purposely don't talk politics
we both know where we each stand so we just respect each other and don't bring anything up.

She saw my bumperstickers yesterday and actually got a good laugh out of the "A Village in Texas is Missing it's Idiot."

I will visit my family the first week of october. They are mostly repubs so I'm kind of scared what will happen.
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:24 PM
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6. How about two brothers and a mother?
We can no longer discuss politics without an argument - usually them telling me that I'm too liberal and un-american. Nice. Huh? My RW friends are still friends. Our political conversations are pretty humorous and light. We know we can't change each others minds.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:24 PM
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7. I had friends over for for dinner who saw my anti-Junior bookshelf
...Franken, Ivins, Dubose, Corn, Hightower, Carville...all of the high-profile books from the last year or two.

One of them said "you know, the people who wrote those books are just trying to influence the way you think."

It became a "let's just agree to disagree" moment. It didn't kill the friendship, but it made me think. During the RNC the wife told me about a trip she was making to New York, and before I knew they were pro-Bush, I jokingly asked "You're not going there to campaign for BUSH, are you?" She replied with a straight face "No, but if they ASKED me I WOULD."

:-(
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:26 PM
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8. I was thinking of this today. The Blue and Grey - sometimes
brothers from the same family on opposite sides....

I know I don't talk to most of my family even before this and it is becoming clearer to me what the differences are - they are rethugs - They have many of the same markings and characteristics

I do have a dear friend that makes it very difficult - she did send me an email that I wanted to send back with the message - if you vote Bush your son will be going to Iraq - but decided not to - that would be acting like a rethug -

I can pray

I just can't believe after all that has happened that she is still voting for him.....but I know she has the ability to access information just like I do and it is not worth forcing the issue -

what she does when she gets in the voting booth may change her life forever

I was also thinking today of another program that is based on attraction rather than promotion.....

I know pushing things on people just turns them off. Spam and junk mail turn me off -

I don-t know how you get through to people - friends are more likely to listen to a stranger than a friend -

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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:26 PM
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9. My Father will barely speak to me.....n/t
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:27 PM
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10. I would have to say NO LOSS, when a friend will not talk to you
because you have different beliefs.
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:28 PM
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11. I've actually ...
made a lot of friends because of this election.
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Lavender Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:28 PM
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12. I've had big arguments with loved ones because of it
:(
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DBtv Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:29 PM
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13. My Mom, my aunt and two brothers.
Way too much kool aide.
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msturgis524 Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:29 PM
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14. Inlaws just think I'm a little off
After spending hours talking with them about politics (they just treat me like I'm a little slow when we do) they're still voting for shrub. They're just happy that we're taking it to Al Qaeda over in Iraq. They actually said "its a good thing we're in Iraq cause now all the terrorists are in one place." ???????????
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:31 PM
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15. Yes.
I have a number of ex "friends" who would just as soon I die tomorrow than be allowed to vote for Kerry in November.

Obviously, I need to choose my friends better in the future.
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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:34 PM
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16. My whole family stopped talking toto me in 92 cuz of Clinton. I guess
I'm just a trend setter.
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cdninRI Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:52 PM
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17. Yes - several
I had one good friend send me an email that said if I voted for Kerry and he won he hoped I would enjoy loosing all of my rights as a woman - something to do with the Taliban. My husband and I have had many huge fights and although he doesn't like Bush particularily he says there is no way he can vote for Kerry. I have to say I have lost respect for him and it has certainly hurt our marriage. Other friends just call me their favourite liberal but are still planning to vote for Bush
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 04:55 PM
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18. Thankfully, my friends and family members fall into one of two camps:
Edited on Mon Sep-13-04 04:55 PM by eyesroll
* Democrats
* Apolitical.

My mother and sister fall into the latter category -- but they're learning. My mom went to an Obama rally yesterday! (She went to shut my dad up, but still.) My sister doesn't like Bush. They pretty much tune out when I get on a roll...but they don't get angry or anything.
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:11 PM
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19. Not yet
But I can see it happening. As long as they leave me alone about my choice for President, I will leave them alone.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:15 PM
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20. self-imposed separation on my part from my freeper father.
I just don't want to hear my dad go on and on so close to the election when things look so grim to me as it is. Last time I heard from him he asked if i wanted to borrow his copy of the Swiftboat Assholes book about Kerry to read...I sent a very "disrespectful" email in response and haven't heard from him since. oh well. :eyes:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:16 PM
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21. Luckily no
All of my close friends are liberals. My family is kind of divided. My mom, step-dad and my closest aunt and uncle are democrats. My two closest cousin are mixed. One is a republican and other doesn't vote that much. I'm working on her to register as a democrat, cuz she's been expressing her liberal side a lot these days.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:17 PM
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22. my cousins
won't talk to me, strong Republicans who don't want universal health care (they all have their super-duper health care)
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:19 PM
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23. Yes
My younger brother asked me to never send him an email again and
we no longer speak.

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tilsammans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 05:30 PM
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24. I steer clear of certain topics with Repug friends/family . . .
. . . because I KNOW a big disagreement will ensue. And I'll get very hot under the collar.

It's really sad. I can't remember people ever being so deeply divided over a presidential election.
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sleepyhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:18 PM
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25. Yes.
I posted about this a while back. One of my oldest friends and I are no longer speaking. I cannot have a civil conversation with my in-laws and I have one aunt with whom I completely avoid discussing politics for fear of becoming estranged. My address book looks totally different than it did 3 years ago. These are truly sad times.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 07:23 PM
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26. Not Yet, but if the Chimp wins
Who can say.......
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