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Bundbuster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 08:48 PM
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Poll question: Best CHICAGO Bluesman ever?
Edited on Sun Aug-22-04 09:29 PM by Bundbuster
Didn't have room for Otis Spann, Big Twist & The Mellowfellows, Junior Wells, James Cotton, Willie Dixon, Big Walter Horton, Pinetop Perkins...guess that's what "Others" is for.

We can do Texas, Delta, and Memphis Bluesmen another time.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 08:50 PM
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1. Dan Akroyd
Sorry, someone had to make that stupid joke eventually
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Bundbuster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 08:51 PM
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3. Hey - Dan & John made some damn good music
via Hollywood
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 08:50 PM
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2. WILLIE DIXON!!!
C'mon, how can you not include him, HE is the big one, HE is the master, HE was the greatest! hands down.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 08:52 PM
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4. Hell yeah!
and his daughter Shirley runs the Chess studio museum at 2120 S. Michigan Ave!
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Bundbuster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 08:53 PM
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5. Well, I did put him in "Others"
Along with Robert Johnson, I'd give Willie "Best Blues Writer".

Never could warm to his singing though.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:27 PM
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19. Dixon: Great composer, great bassist.
But as a performer, he was just okay. There was a REASON he had Howlin' Wolf and Muddy Waters cover his best songs.

Dixon deserved his accolades as a composer and a bassist, but he lacked the fire and excitement Wolf and Muddy brought to their performances of his songs. Dixon was best interpreted by those two.

C'mon... when you want to cite a great Dixon song, who do you go to? Wolf and Muddy!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:01 PM
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6. there is no "ever"
my favorite is luther allison , otis rush,and jr wells . there are so many great players that hail from chicago it`s impossible to say "ever"....
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Bundbuster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:05 PM
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7. Has anyone seen a Live Luther Allison show?
Listening to some of his Live recordings today inspired me to do this poll. "It Hurts Me Too" and "Little Red Rooster" are as good as it gets.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:10 PM
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9. i used to see luther allison play all the time....
in the late 70s and early 80s at biddy mulligan's on broadway. he was awesome.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:07 PM
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8. Umm.... Howlin' Wolf?
Geez!
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Bundbuster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:13 PM
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11. Umm....my memory is fried
by 10 years of daily dope back in the day.

Someone give me 50 lashes for leaving the Wolf off the list.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:12 PM
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10. i voted for fenton robinson...even tho he's not from chicago....
he played more of a kansas city style blues. a lot of jazz influence. soulful guitar player and an amazing voice too.

if you don't own his CD "somebody loan me a dime" on alligator records, i suggest you buy it asap.
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Bundbuster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:16 PM
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13. Amen
Fenton had one of the great voices - Blues or otherwise - and such a soothing style. I second your CD pick, worth every dime.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:13 PM
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12. the other guy that should be in the poll is david bromberg....
Edited on Sun Aug-22-04 09:18 PM by flush_bush
originally from new york, he's a chicagoan now. and his style was always chicago blues. he looks like a big ol' square but put a guitar in his hand and he becomes a monster.
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Bundbuster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:21 PM
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15. Didn't he do a superb cover of "Kansas City"?
And I have to ask you, flush -
assuming you've also seen Buddy Guy, if I had tickets for either Buddy or Luther Allison in a good Chicago club (like Legends), which would you take?
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:27 PM
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18. well, i'd have to go with buddy guy....
....because luther died a few years back and probably wouldn't be much fun to see. but if he were alive, i'd take the luther allison tickets. i've seen buddy about a hundred times. luther was always one of my favorites too.

and as for a good chicago blues club....the best were: biddy mulligan's, wise fool's, blues on halsted, orphan's and lily's.

did you ever see blind john davis play at lily's?
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Bundbuster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 12:40 AM
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29. Only spent one week in Chicago
in 1995. The only club I made it to was Legends, but what a super town for entertainment of all sorts. I could have spent 2 months there and still had lots left on my "to do" list.

With your Luther Allison choice (of course those fantasy tickets were "in the living years"), my suspiscion that I missed one of the true greats is confirmed. Ranks right up there with passing down an invite and ride to Woodstock, living then only 2 1/2 hours away.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:19 PM
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14. Peter Cetera
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:27 PM
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17. Nice hair.
:eyes:
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:22 PM
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16. How the fuck can you not have Howlin' Wolf?
That just kills the credibility of this poll. You cannot have a poll with Muddy Waters and Willie Dixon under the 'Chicago' category WITHOUT the WOLF. :nuke:

Fuck this poll.
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Bundbuster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:28 PM
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20. see post #11
Edited on Sun Aug-22-04 09:30 PM by Bundbuster
When I was listening to Chicago Blues (and Duane Allman) in the late '60's and '70's, I was also consuming mass quantities of hemp, every day for 10-12 years. I pay the price of memory & concentration damage now, per your critique.

My VERY bad - poll has been edited.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:37 PM
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21. lol
Thanks for that edit... and explaining better than I ever could why I think pot is the most overrated shit to ever sprout from the good earth.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 09:50 PM
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22. Howlin' Wolf (everybody else can fight it out for second place)
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 10:04 PM
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23. Can't call anyone the best "ever", but Buddy Guy's my favorite
Edited on Sun Aug-22-04 10:04 PM by notmyprez
Especially love seeing him live.
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Bundbuster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 10:23 PM
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25. How about "best so far?"
And I agree - caught Buddy live in a small club in 1988. Besides being a superb player, he's a superb, down-to-earth human. I gave him 2 custom 90-minutes tapes I'd made for him, mostly old Chess stuff from the '50's that I figure he'd enjoy on his touring bus. He read all the titles and was completely blown away that someone would do that for him. As I suspected, alot of those songs - especially when he was backing Muddy Waters as early as the late '40's - were stuff he didn't even have himself anymore.

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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 11:10 PM
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26. That's great; I'm sure he did appreciate that.
I saw him in a small club a number of times in the eighties, and one time he was hanging out in the back of the club as everyone was leaving at the end of the night. A few people were walking up to him to shake his hand and say "good show" on their way out. When I walked up to him, he wouldn't shake my hand--instead, he gave me a big ol' hug. :-)
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Bundbuster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 12:26 AM
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28. Sounds just like Buddy
He has the most genuine, infectuous smile I've ever seen. When one reflects on the baggage of bitterness & anger a man like him must have overcome - born in hardcore, overt racist times (1920's or '30's Louisiana) - the smile of his soul is even brighter.
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 10:21 PM
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24. Harp--the master: James Cotton
Saw him a few times in the Checkerboard (I got to play, badly maybe, at his club once too, off Belmont; think he only had it a couple of years).

Anyway, he worked the room with class. Showmanship and a mean harp.

Junior a great character too. Overshadowed by Buddy. Even shitfaced like I remember him on a few especially cool nights, he owned them high notes.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 11:19 PM
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27. Little Walter, Sonny Boy Williamson2, Paul Butterfield...
so many more-all great.
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