Very depressed right now....

[dryan]

yesterday, my husband's boss gave him a "Predetermination Letter" which states in essence that on August 26th, he is to meet with a HR representative to terminate his employment. He also gave him a packet of information that looks like a master's thesis in length that is filled with anecdotal charges. I stayed up all night reading the thing. My husband just celebrated his 56 birthday; he has kidney disease and diabetes. I just don't know how we are going to survive.

[WillParkinson]

1. What reason are they giving?

I've never heard of such a letter. What reasoning are they giving him?

[JuniorPlankton]

2. That's really too bad

I wish I could help you :(

[Catfight]

3. I'm so sorry. Things will be okay, they always work out somehow.

[Jo March]

4. Okay, you know that it's lawyer time, right?

Don't let him sign ANYTHING until you at least talk to a lawyer! This is important, okay?

Please, please, please do not have him sign anything yet.

What is he being fired for?

I am so sorry to hear this. I will say a prayer for you and your husband.

[dryan]

5. Anecdotal stuff...

he took off two days and they said that the stockroom was messy also that 5 spools of copper cable came in and one was stolen. It wasn't even signed in by him but his boss says that he's responsible. Thanks for the thoughts and prayers.

[Union Thug]

6. Let me guess... no union representation.

And the worst part of this is that employers can trample over any employee at anytime with such anecdotal charges. My father once took a case to the NLRB. It should have been, in any sane world, a clear case against the employer and in favor of my father. But, as the NLRB is just a clever tool of the business class, he lost and we ate government cheese. This was back in the 80's after RAY-GUN began his war on the working class.

I'm sorry to hear of this and wish you both the best.

[trotsky]

7. Yes, GET A LAWYER. Now.

They will be able to assess the situation and at least let you know if something's fishy.

[Union Thug]

10. We just attempted to confront a corporate Daycare center...

...for it's blatant disregard for federal labor laws and basically the attorney said there wasn't much we could do.

The director was running what amounted to a child mill...hiring too few employees to care for a large number of children (constantly shuffling kids from one classroom to another to maintain the semblence of acceptable adult/child ratios), forcing people to take their lunch breaks as soon as they came in in the morning, firing people just before they had put in a year (and their bennies would kick in)...

And there was not much we could do. ALL the employees save one are immigrants, easily intimidated by mgmt and completely ignorant of labor laws.

Workers in this country are screwed until they organize and realize that they have the power.

[Cheswick2.0]

8. tell him not to sign anything, get a lawyer

Were any of these charges brought to his attention at the time, was he given retraining?
I'll bet he is being fired for having kidney disease and diabetes.

In the meantime I hope you have a good job, if not get one and cut your expenses to the bone, you can survive this. See if your husband can qualify for disability. But do it quietly for future reference.

What does you husband do? Were any of the charges true?

[soothsayer]

9. no verbal or written warnings beforehand? get a lawyer! this is wrong.

Good luck to you. Hang in there.

[Union Thug]

11. At the daycare i mentioned... they were writing corrective actions..

retroactively...and inserting farbed up dates to support their actions against employees. When asked why there were no employee signatures on these 'corrective actions', mgmt said that the employee refused to sign.

[flamingyouth]

12. I'm so sorry

I don't even know what to say. :hug:

[Khephra]

13. You just don't know how we are going to survive?

If it is some comfort, that is the question we ask at our family dinners every night.

(During the Bush years our family has lost 75% of the money we made during Clinton.)

[Khephra]

15. The point I'm trying to make is this

You Survive. SURVIVE. Don't let that bastards get to you.

[Nikia]

14. That's horrible

Does he have any chance to appeal? Like others have suggested, you might want to see a lawyer. You have a little bit of time and the info packet should give the lawyer something to work with.

[dryan]

16. He was laidoff in 1995....

by the Siemens company which went from 3,000 employees to 100 in less than 2 years. He had a very good job there. Two years later, we were almost penniless when he took this job. We are members of a union, but we don't have a contrct (another big story). Thanks for everyone's thoughts.