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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 07:18 AM
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Teen beats mom after she tries to get him out of bed after 2 p.m.
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It was 2 p.m. on a beautiful sunny day in Belleville, and a 40-year-old woman's teenage son was still asleep.

"Get up," the woman said she told her 14-year-old son dozing Thursday on the apartment patio.

A half-hour later, she told him again -- "Get up."

The boy's verbal and physical rampage over the next several minutes landed him in handcuffs on his way to the Wayne County Juvenile Detention Facility on charges of domestic violence and assault and battery of his mother.

"This domestic violence case is probably one of the more disturbing ones I've seen," Wayne County Assistant Prosecutor Jeffrey Plymale told a family court referee Friday during a hearing for the boy.

The boy's mother said her son has oppositional/defiant disorder and attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder, emotional problems stemming from the 1999 shooting death of his father.

"He's very mean, very angry," she said of her son.

http://www.freep.com/news/locway/juvie7_20040807.htm
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Guy Fawkes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:55 PM
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1. Look, I can see why someone would be angy...
but to attack their mother! I might hit my brother if he tried to wake me up... but at least he'd do the same to me!
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 11:13 PM
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2. My mother would have killed me
she didn't and doesn't take any shit at all. If I even raised my hand to her I'd be dead now.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 11:15 PM
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3. You and me both...
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Bogus W Potus Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 11:38 PM
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4. Poor kid
What he did was inexcusable but the article does mention the violent shooting death of his father, and the fact that he has dual mental disorders - O/DD and ADHD.

I hope he gets the mental help he needs, rather than just incarceration.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 11:48 PM
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5. A little counseling can do wonders...
for both the boy and his mom.
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Bogus W Potus Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 11:58 PM
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6. It could indeed
Edited on Tue Aug-10-04 11:58 PM by Bogus W Potus
Of course the boy was wrong to strike his mom, but I just can't understand what her problem was.

She seemed to have no problem with him sleeping until 10 or 11 in the morning, but 2 in the afternoon was a problem? I've always let my kids sleep as late as they want and they've never tried to attack me. Teenagers really like to sleep and the procession through adolescence is harder without an increase in hours slept per day. I fully understand this and this is why I allow them(my kids) as much sleep as they need to function. I also understand that not every kid can go to bed at a set time every night, like 11 pm. If it is the summer and school is not in session then I see no problem at all with them staying up all night. It's part of being a kid. This mother should re-evaluate her rules, in my humble opinion.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 12:01 AM
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7. Your humble opinion
misses the HUGE point which is that this little prick decided to beat up on his Mom. Now I agree, the mother was wrong. But NOT for waking him up, but for not instilling any sense of propriety or decency in the little shit.
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Bogus W Potus Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 12:03 AM
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8. Are you a parent?
Edited on Wed Aug-11-04 12:10 AM by Bogus W Potus
Are you a parent? I've read your posts for awhile and I'm under the impression that you are not a parent. Please correct me if I'm wrong, however.

Like I said, I've never had any problem with my children doing things like this, but then again I treat them more respectfully and they don't have ADHD and O/DD. You should really put this into perspective considering the effects that these two disorders can have on a person's behavior.

The article said that she suffered minor injuries. I am sure that the kid is hurting inside more than she can possibly imagine.

By the way, referring to the kid as a little shit only re-inforces my view that if you are not a parent now, you should probably never become a parent. Parenting isn't for everyone, and if you are going to use phrases like "little shit" to describe a troubled kid, the world would be much, much better off without you applying your parenting skills.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 12:13 AM
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11. I am not a parent
but I am a son. The kid is a little shit. It's not his fault. He was raised by parents who didn't instill in him the value of not beating up your mother.

I grew up with kids who used to curse their mothers and they did nothing about it. Those kids today are either in jail or lousy failures. I don't give a shit about a made up "oppositional disorder". ALL kids and teens are oppositional. To claim it's a medical condition is outrageous.

I can guarantee you the mother in this case was a dishrag who was treated badly by all the men in her life. I feel sorry for her. She needs to respect herself.

But the kid is a little shit no matter what you say.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 12:23 AM
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14. I wish I didn't speak from experience...
but I was very nearly in the shoes of that mom.

Propriety and decency lessons were never in question. And while I'm not a flawless parent, I've always done my best to teach him self- discipline without going over the top (of course, most teens think their parents go over the top.)

One thing I learned, is that when a highly-sensitive high-strung kid's hormones run amok, the result can be akin to a serious case of PMS. Add to that low blood sugar, lack of sleep, lack of exercise, and over abundance of junk food, caffeine, and red dye #40; and a kid can become your worst nightmare.

Counseling did a world of good for my boy.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 12:08 AM
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9. The boy could be suffering from depression...
if he's spending an inordinate amount of time sleeping.

Also, I've found with my older boy that basic needs are sometimes overlooked by the average teenager when parents figure they're old enough to take responsibility for themselves.

Simply making sure the kid eats breakfast can take care of morning irritability.
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Bogus W Potus Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 12:09 AM
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10. All good points
Unfortunately, other people on here have a real cold view of rehabilitation when it comes to kids.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 12:14 AM
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12. I don't think it's
possible for a teen to sleep an inordinate amount. I spent my entire high-school years sleepy.
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slutticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 12:18 AM
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13. This is what happens when you don't spank your children.
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