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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 06:35 PM
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If Aliens Ever Showed Up, Would People Still Believe In God?
I mean, if one day ET were to land on earth, get out of his spaceship and say "I made you all, you're all my pets" or something to that effect, what would the reaction be?

I mean, thousands of years of human history tied into religion would suddenly be thrown up in the air right?

What do you think would happen? Would people still believe in a God?

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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 06:37 PM
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1. Would they still believe in the Big Bang and Evolution?
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I AM SPARTACUS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 06:38 PM
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2. goggle on +"church" +"belief in aliens"...lotsa folks would...
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 06:40 PM
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3. Yes, they would.
And the fucking fundys would try to destroy them, because "they're sent by Satan."

(Hey, just look at Pat Robertson's views on UFO's one of these days. I don't remember the URL though.)
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 08:24 AM
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36. EXACTLY!!!
Pat Robertson suggested that people who see UFOs were "sorcerers" who should be stoned (with rocks, not buds).

Imagine what he'd think of aliens?!

And people wonder why ET hasn't landed on the White House lawn...

Tucker

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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 06:43 PM
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4. A good scifi novel I read
long ago featured an alien invasion. Unfortunately God came with them

and was on THEIR side. Bummer!

180
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JewelDigger Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 06:44 PM
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5. Sure they would...
...after all, who made the aliens???
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Ignoramus Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 06:50 PM
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10. Uh yeah
Being religeous means you have faith. Faith means you accept an idea no matter what facts there are. So, of course, the faithful will believe no matter what, and would keep their faith (if alien's appearance somehow challenges that faith). Unless the aliens appearance would be sufficiently disorienting that is.
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JewelDigger Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 07:00 PM
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13. True faith
asks that we not be stooopid and believe anything/everything.

It just seeks the truth. If you know your bible a lil bit...the story of 'Doubting Thomas' who wouldn't believe just based on others peoples 'word' (even people who he loved and trusted). He said that he wouldn't believe until he could touch the wounds and 'put his hand in Jesus' side'. Jesus said oki....I'm here, touch the wounds, touch my side....Thomas backed off some, but the 'real deal' always stands by the truth and can answer all of the 'tough questions' and show proof.

Which brings us to the present day.....*great big sigh*....
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everythingsxen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 06:46 PM
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6. ROFL
That reminds me of a Simpsons episode that was on earlier this evening, its a clip-show centered around the premise of roasting Homer. At the end Kang and Kodos (see picture below :D) show up and announce "We have watched your puny planet, since it was created, 5000 years ago, by God!" At which point they bow their heads and do that "in the name of the Father etc." thing where you touch your forehead and left and right chest or however the thing goes. :)



Still. An absolutely priceless scene. Especially given this topic. :evilgrin:
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Devlzown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 06:50 PM
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9. It's called genuflection or genuflexion.
Can't remember exactly how to spell it. I love that episode too!
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MoonGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 06:47 PM
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7. Read Childhood's End...

... by Arthur C. Clarke.

Very similar concept. Quite a good read.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 06:48 PM
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8. NO
people will always need a crutch. But they would briefly stop fighting each other.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 06:52 PM
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11. Yes
Mind you it would shake the living daylights out of some of the fundimenatlists. But a lot if not most individuals that believe in god are no where near that humancentric point of view. Belief in god would simply shift to include him/her/it making aliens too.
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bucknaked Donating Member (818 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 06:56 PM
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12. Of course they would... it'd just be a test!
...as with all biblically unexplainable things, it'd be a test of faith!

:D
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 07:02 PM
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14. Probably
Edited on Thu Jul-10-03 07:23 PM by supernova
since belief in a diety is really not tied to emperical evidence.

Some people with very rigid belief systems (read: fundamentalist) might view it as God-breaking .... if that's a word. They wouldn't know how to assimilate the new knowledge into their beliefs.

Others like me with a pretty fluid belief structure will probably assimilate it.

Why do you ask?

edit: I should add that even now I don't find it at all strange to think of intelligent beings alive on other worlds. It's highly unlikely we humans are the lone, sentient beings in the universe. It really is just a matter of time before we meet up.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 07:09 PM
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15. My grandfather believes the alien theory
He has all kinds of books about how aliens were influential in many early civilizations and were worshipped as gods. One even said that humans were an ape/alien hybrid that was cultivated by the parent alien civilization. He doesn't believe in God, but I don't know if all people would conclude the same thing.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 07:13 PM
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16. Is your father
a Raellian by chance?
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 07:24 PM
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19. No
It's my grandfather by the way (It's alright though.). He doesn't belong to any organized alien believers group. I am not sure which came first atheism or aliens, but from talking to him it seems that it was atheism first and the alien theory helped him raionalize the existance of religion and other systems of supernatural belief.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 07:13 PM
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17. remember the south park ep?
Where Starvin Marvin finds the spacecraft? The 700 Club tries to send missionaries to Marklar.

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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 07:16 PM
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18. how would it affect belief in one's god?
A million people in Mexico City observed the UFOs flying over in the 1990s. I have no reason to doubt that they are still devout Catholics but many Mexicans do accept the existence of aliens.

Why isn't Mary, Mother of God, big enough to be mother to the space brothers as well as to the rest of us?

I know several people who are believing Catholics and also accept the reality of life on other worlds. Some fundie Church of Godder types object to the concept of aliens but I think most mainstream Protestant religions (methodists, presbyterians, etc) leave it to the individual to decide for herself on matters of "science in the news."

I also know a great many pagans who claim experience w/ UFOs or even alien abductions.

There is no law saying only an atheist can believe in aliens or dinosaurs; this is a fundie extremist belief that should be dismissed out of hand. Fundies are full of hate for ANYTHING that distracts from their message of hate, be it the space brothers, evolution, or what have you, but most religions are not going to be perturbed by proof of the largeness of God's creation.

Just my humble opinion...you may wish to get your own.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 07:45 PM
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20. well, I approach it like this
Seeing a UFO and actually being visited by aliens are two totally seperate things.

IF, one day, an alien were to show up, and tell everyone the secrets of the universe, and reveal that there is NO GOD and that all life sprang from ...gee I don't know, use your imagination... then what would people believe.

The bible...or the eight foot alien being standing right in front of them?
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MoonGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 07:50 PM
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21. Damnit! I said read Childhood's End!

... and you just ignore me like a 2-bit whore!

:P

Seriously, if this question was interesting enough for you to post here, then I promise you'll like this book.
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JewelDigger Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 07:59 PM
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22. "....the secrets of the universe, .....
....and that all life sprang from ...gee I don't know, use your imagination... then what would people believe."

Let's say that 'THEY' say that "life sprang from the MUD (or whatever)."

Well, who put the mud there?
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 08:04 PM
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25. The Big Bang...
not quite a "who," but a "what" works...
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 08:01 PM
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23. Yes...
If you showed some reigious people irrefutable proof that God did not exist, they would still believe in God.
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JewelDigger Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 08:02 PM
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24. Yes!!!
If you showed some irreligious people irrefutable proof that God does, in fact, exist - they STILL wouldn't believe!
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MoonGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 08:09 PM
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28. I can't imagine there IS irrefutable proof that God does not exist...

... kinda the old "you can't prove a negative".

I suppose if you set up a very specific and measurable set of parameters to define "God" first, then maybe you could, but I haven't seen a whole lot of agreement on exactly who or what God is.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 08:11 PM
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29. I agree...
it was an impossible situation used to make a point.
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MoonGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 08:28 PM
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31. Oh... so kinda like...

"Even if monkey flew out my butt, they'd still believe in God"?

... I want a monkeys-flying-out-of-my-butt emoticon.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 08:09 PM
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26. maybe have a Slim Whitman LP on hand just in case


yak yak yak yak yak
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Sirius_on Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 08:09 PM
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27. I always hoped that we could contact aliens
I am a Christian myself and I believe in Aliens. If God is so powerful, why would he create such a large universe for such a small portion of life?

The first question I would ask an alien is what is there species origin. If they said "well, God of course". I would shit a brick....If they said "We really dont know, do you?" I would still shit a brick. :shrug:
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:18 PM
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33. If they said
Edited on Thu Jul-10-03 09:24 PM by Blue_Chill
"blah blah blah I like cookies" I would shit a brick :D
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AnnabelLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 08:12 PM
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30. Here's what the people over at xian forums think
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:17 PM
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32. Yes. Silly question.
Aliens would change nothing as the bible no where claims to explain every mystery one could ever experience.

I would however have plenty of questions for the aliens. I wonder if they would speak english like they do on star trek.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:34 PM
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34. So if aliens showed up with the exact same Bible and Jesus story we have
Would it convince us atheists that God was real?

My favorite line from the Osborne song: "If God had a face what would it look like, and would you want to see if seeing meant that you would have to believe in things like Heaven, and Jesus and the saints and all the prophets?" What if someone could show us a miracle? What if we heard God's voice, and knew it was God's? Would we be so upset at having to believe in something we didn't want to that we would still deny?

Just curious. Seems to be in the same vein as the original post, just flipped a bit.
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 08:17 AM
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35. Yes
Well, everyone except for the Cafeteria Christians and those who just kind of go to church and go through the motions.

It wouldn't just be religion; if an alien popped out said, "I made you all," would that not throw the theory of evolution into utter chaos?
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