How many here still have a turntable?

[Seneca]

I still have a substantial number of record albums, and love having a turntable handy. I like that some contemporary artists still release vinyl. I am no Luddite, for I couldn't do without my CD player, but the attraction of vinyl still lingers.

First up on the playlist today... "Chuck Berry Is On Top", a long out-of-print pressing. Perhaps Jeff Beck's "Wired" next.

[Aristus]

1. Me. I need a turntable to play my copy of "Other Voices", the

first album The Doors recorded after Jim Morrison died. It's a collectors item.

[demnan]

2. Me

I have a lot of records, many operas and other quite expensive anthologies and I still have a turntable. Unfortunately, my turntable (a belt-driven Technics that is about 20 years old) doesn't currently work. I'll take this as a reminder that I should replace it.

[MiddleRiverRefugee]

3. Yeah, dammit....it's busted.

Worse still it's a loaner, so eventually I will probably have to buy the remains from my bro-in-law. It was in great shape before the bookcase fell on top of it (don't ask me...anything.)

I've got a lotta vinyl, too, and I wanna hear some.

[SiouxJ]

4. I do but about the only time it gets used

is when I have a party. In the wee hours of the morning, when the cool/fun people are the only ones left, we dig through my old record collection and have a blast.

[Zomby Woof]

8. Am I cool/fun???

:bounce:

This is the first of many nagging posts to get you out here to meet us! :D

[SiouxJ]

14. That remains to be seen

:shrug: ;-) I have a feeling you wouldn't like a lot of my fun/late night at a party/annoy the neighbors until they call the cops music, but who knows? I could be wrong.

It's just that you live so very far away - damn the luck ;-)

[Zomby Woof]

15. I invented those damn parties!

I'd think you would have picked up on that by now!

Far away, my sweet Zomby ass! You CANNOT resist the chance of a lifetime! ZombyWoof! KadeCarrion! And bonus DUers Desertrose and Astarho! :party:

Could this post possibly have any more exclamation points???!!!!!

[SiouxJ]

18. You did not!

I did and I'm older than you so I had two extra years to think them up. So there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds like you're hogging DUers. It's not fair, you have too many :-). It does sound inviting :-)

[Zomby Woof]

22. WE'RE IN THE SAME STATE!!!!!

And I am at least as cute as that other DUer you know!! I can assure you that KadeCarrion is the CUTEST of all!

I was born with a bottle of Jack in one hand, and a cigar in the other! Let's rumble! :D

[SiouxJ]

25. Yes, the state of confusion

:-)

Well, she may be the cutest 20 something but I've gotta rank somewhere in there for the 30 somethings.

A bottle of Jack is not a very good bribe. Now a bottle of Maker's would be hard to resist! :-)

[Zomby Woof]

26. who's bribing!?

Like I would share. ;-)

I am still the cutest 30-something, since you insist on hiding your cuteness from the world. :P

[SiouxJ]

27. The world just can't handle how cute I am

but we will do some Jack & Maker's some time soon! We'll just have to have a deal that there can be no sharp objects in the room :-). Also no implements that can be used as strangling devices :-) .

[Zomby Woof]

30. in person you will melt

You will find I am mellower and more charming in person than I am on here. If that is possible, anyway. I am fun! Katy and her family approve, so that must mean something, right? :evilgrin: Or ask the Seattle DUers who met me! Like geniph and Johnyawl, whose opinions count more than most on here! :D

[SiouxJ]

32. Yes but if the subject of music is brought up

(and how can it not be?) well, like I've told you, the cops have better things to do :-)

[Zomby Woof]

33. Oh, like we're violent types!

(Sorry Seneca, but we are inveterate hijackers in here, lol)

We're peacenik liberals who will mock and deride, but then hug and make-up!

Hey, you underestimate my powers of diplomacy! Katy and I merged our CD's, and yes, Queen sits on our shelf now, as does a Freddie Mercury tribute concert VHS, lol. :-)

So, um, there!

[SiouxJ]

35. Yes well, at least one of you has good taste

:evilgrin:

Yes but I do have a temper when my greatest passion is involved. I may look harmless but I have in fact thrown a few things in my day :-) . Well, ok only twice :-).

Perhaps we should watch a Chargers game instead. At least that way we'd both be on the same side :-) .

[Zomby Woof]

37. ouch!

You KNOW you like 99% of my music!!! :P

Gawd, dare we endure the potential humiliation of the Bolts? Sure glad preseason doesn't count. :o

I got Katy into watching Mariners baseball when she was in Seattle, and we have caught them once here. They are fun, and she sees why, but I don't foresee making her a football convert, lol.

I really think you should let go of your fear about a musical argument causing problems. As long as you don't say anything stupid, you'll be fine. :evilgrin:

[SiouxJ]

38. That's impossible!

I can't like 99% of your music! Why there is not one confederate flag album cover in my entire collection :evilgrin: .

See - we've started already. :shrug:

[Zomby Woof]

40. your loss!

Blame MCA and their narrow marketing gimmicks. But hey, growing up in the south in the 70's it wasn't a big deal. I still have mine tucked away somewhere. They were as common as Coca-Cola, and probably less harmful.

In a way, even you can't escape it. The Band kept one in their house in CA, and you can see it on the wall of one of their rooms in "The Last Waltz". So, um, there! :P

[SiouxJ]

41. Actually I lied

I think Tom Petty must have used on somewhere along the way. But the only Skynyrd album I have (inherited from my deceased brother) oddly enough doesn't have one.

[Zomby Woof]

43. Skynyrd fought MCA

To NOT use the damn thing. Quite informative bits in the liner notes of the boxed set. Finally, they got their way in 1977, when they convinced the label that "southern rock" was a stupid label (RVZ hated it),and they used thier own backdrop. They came out on stage to the to "Maginificent Seven" theme. Only days later did teh crash occur, and they never fulfilled RVZ's goal of complete marketing sovereignty.

It should NOT surprise you. Though you can see pics of the one used on stage on the 1976 live album inside the jacket, they never put one on the cover. MCA did so in 1987, kowtowing to the lowest level marketing denominator. Don't even get me started on MCA, lol. The 80's was the decade their mob ties and huge mismanagement were exposed. They used to treat the reissues on vinyl and CD of all their major acts (including Petty) shoddily. Only in recent years has this been rectified.

Petty got a lot of flak when he used the flag on his "Pack Up The Plantation! Live!" album (and the video for "Rebels"). He was a Floridian like most of Skynyrd was too, and having grown up in the 60's and 70's, he naively ran headlong into the shifting PC landscape of the 80's. Oops.

Times DO change the meaning of things.

[SiouxJ]

44. Again

I wasn't referring to any meaning of the flag. Just to your taste for that type of music - whatever you want to call it. We sure know how to push each other's buttons, that's for sure :-)

[SiouxJ]

42. And actually

I was referring to your taste for southern rock, not any significance of the flag itself. So there! Neener!

[Coffee Coyote]

45. as I said

I agree with RVZ - it's a meaningless label. It was used for marketing. I feel exactly the same way when critics hurled around the "grunge" label a decade ago. It's the perfect analogy by the way. The so-called grunge bands differed from one another as much as the southern bands did. (Allmans = jazz, blues; Skynyrd = blues, Brit-invasion rock; Wet Willie = R&B, soul). It was just good, honest rock and roll. No gimmicks, no slickness. Not all the songs were about wimmen and whiskey either, or I wouldn't hold it in the high esteem I do. Those songs have their place, as any of the old blues and country masters would attest, but there was some real depth in there. Bottom line, I can move my feet to it! :D

I don't tell you all these things to change your opinion. I just like to get the facts out there so that you have more information. I am no evangelist, lol. I always prefer people make up their own minds.

I don't feel my buttons are being pressed, I just like offering factual tidbits where I can, with no arguments about your opinions.

Finally, it is rather foolish for either of us to dwell on a genre, or whatever it is we dislike, when we both safely have at least 2-300 artists in our collections to choose from, most of which we mutually enjoy.

[Coffee Coyote]

46. or another way I look at it

There are lots of British bands. But no such thing as "British rock" (Yes, there was British invasion rock, because that referred to a commercial and artistic movement confined to a specific era - but no all-encompassing "British rock").

In other words, the reason I don't personally believe there is such thing as "southern rock" is for the same reason there is no such thing as "British rock".

Just as Queen, David Bowie, and Genesis are distinct identities without labels, so too are the Allmans or Skynyrd.

I would cringe if people called Queen "British rock". I mean, wtf? lol

See what I am getting at? :-)

This is not to say you should NOT believe in the label, just that we won't be on the same wavelength otherwise because to me it is false and misleading. I don't deny its convenience, especially if we are being era-specific, but otherwise, as a descriptive tool, it doesn't hold water with me.

See? We can be civil in our discussions dammit! :D

[SiouxJ]

49. I made up my mind a long time ago

call it what you like I don't like most of it :-). Just a personal preference. I happen to like some gimmicks and slickness. It's what makes rock n roll fun IMO. :-)

"I just like to get the facts out there so that you have more information."

Thanks. BTW, I have quite a bit stored in my brain too.

As for labels, I don't think they are totally without merit. They help people converse. Everyone knows what/who your are referring to when you say southern rock (or grunge, or freakin' "hair band" for that matter) so what's so bad about that?

Ok, so they aren't buttons (if you say so), but they sure are guaranteed to make you go off - lol.

[Coffee Coyote]

50. huh?

I never "went off". I love talking about music, and that is all I have done - in a calm, fun, and rational manner. I am not sure I understand what your definition of "going off" is, but I'd say today I am scot-free.

I like gimmicks too, they have their place. I just like most of the music I like because it doesn't need them to be more palatable to the masses. I never said I want ALL of my music to be unslick or what have you.

Yes, labels have some use, but really, I think a person who is a slave to them is doing themselves a disservice if they hear a label about a band they do not even know, and say "No! I don't wanna hear it!". Admit it, if someone said "check out this southern rock band", you'd be prejudiced about the label, and deny yourself something potentially enjoyable. But we all have our criteria.

For someone who claims they hate analyzing music, and just wants to have fun, you seem more concerned about limiting music and confining it to the imprisonment of labels than I do. Labels limit, and they subvert the enjoyment of music. I for one don't want my fun inhibited. Ironic, in any event.

But no, this to me has been a fun and informative exchange, not "going off".

I am also at a loss as to why you feel the need to tell me you have quite a bit stored in your brain. What prompted that? The reason I tell you all that I do is because I trust that you DO have some foreknowledge of music. I don't waste my valuable time talking to novices or the indifferent.

You say you worry about us having some huge conflict or something if we met. Well, it wouldn't be on my hands. Not once has this exchange inflamed me or been unpleasant. I have been smiling and enjoying the whole thing. Somehow, I have this idea that you think I am over here pounding the keys with a grimace on my face, lol.

Sometimes you puzzle me, but that is no big crime. I know I have my moments of miscommunication.

[SiouxJ]

51. Well

what prompted that was that line. It sounded like here, let me teach you. You do come across that way sometimes.

When did I ever limit or confine it? All I said was that labels help us understand what we're talking about. I think they're fine. They don't limit anything. The individual is the one who decides to limit. I would NEVER say - "no I don't want to hear it" to anything. I've gone to tons and tons of concerts that I thought I wouldn't like just to give it a shot, even if the "label" wasn't up my alley. Sometimes my mind was changed, sometimes it wasn't. I have a feeling I have a much more open mind musically than you. You're always discounting anyone with "pouty lips" and "big hair" for example (not to mention anyone known as an 80's band ;-) ) I have found stuff I like even there. I like Tom Petty and I would consider him borderline southern rock. I even have a 38 Special album but in general I'm not fond of that sound. Just like you're not fond of the way some bands look. Funny but I think that influences your decision more than the actual music sometimes. Just a personal observation.

When I say "went off" I was referring to the quantity of lines, not the tone. Sorry. Misunderstanding. There are certain things that are guaranteed to get a novel out of you - lol.

I'm not angry here either. But I can just see us having this debate in person and I'm not sure if it would be incredibly fun or incredibly annoying or incredibly frustrating - lol. Probably all of the above.

Anyway, I've got to get off to the office here. I'm sure I've just said some things that you want to respond to though ;-). Feel free to PM me and we can continue it or, as you sometimes like to do - we can just "drop it." :-)

[Rick Myers]

5. I have one, but I don't keep it out

Lost my ENORMOUS vinyl collection in my divorce. Very bad memories. I had some amazing stuff... Promos, test pressings, original 45rpm demos of Blondie and the B-52's... Oh, the pain..........

[DBoon]

13. You must convert this stuff

to MP3s and make it available somehow!

[Dissenting_Prole]

6. I have two.

No, I'm not a DJ either.

"I keep a spare for emergencies."


My used turntables cost less than two CDs, and I get records at garage sales for next to nothing, and sometimes free.

The only drawback for me is having to get up every 20 minutes to flip 'em over.

[mlawson]

78. So do I! Who needs CDs??

Hell, there hasn't been a decent album released in this current century! I have 1,000 LPs, and they are from the years of Far Better Music!!

If we didn't need CDs in 1967, we don't need them now!!! Sgt Pepper's was just fine without them....

[bloom]

7. me too

Mostly my husband is attached to it. Actually - we need a new one - then I might use it more. It makes weird noises.

Some favorite albums - never got the CD.

[mhr]

9. Here's Mine

Very nice looking and spins vinyl really well!

[EOTE]

12. Beautiful!

That's not a Sumiko is it?

[mhr]

17. Its a Dynavector 10X4

eon

[EOTE]

20. That's the cartridge right?

What's the turntable?

[mhr]

52. It is a Teres

You can learn more at www.teresaudio.com

[EOTE]

10. Yep....

But I'm slowly replacing all my vinyl with their SACD and DVD-Audio counterparts. There's lots of stuff I owned on vinyl that I wouldn't bother to replace with the convenience of CDs, but SACD and DVD-Audio combine the best of both worlds. I'd give them the edge in sound quality too. I've got Fleetwood Mac's 'Rumours' on DVD-Audio and it blows the vinyl away.

[DBoon]

11. yes

I have many classic LPs, some I bought in the early 1970's.

Don't want to replace with CDs

Couldn't in many cases

Try to buy LPs on occasion - either new stuff or used items

I've found a lot of artists release on vinyl, especially those on independnt labels

I like vinyl - no digital rights management, no copy protection, lasts almost forever.

[MadHound]

16. I've got two Technics turntables

Direct drives, works like a charm. I'm keeping one for backup/spareparts and use the other for my vinyl collection. I burn about four ablbums a month onto CD. I invested too much into vinyl to let it go to waste, and besides, there are just some things out there they are not putting on CD.

[CanuckAmok]

61. Me too!

I have two Technics 1200s (one for parts)--they're tanks!

What do you use (hardware/software) to record vinyl onto CD/MP3? I really should start doing that...

[Cush]

19. me

although its not hooked up

[blessedleader]

21. Just bought one. . .

oops, caught the bug. . . just put in a new Audio Technica cartridge . . . and am addicted to buying stuff from sundazed. . . Played Sundazed's Mono Highway 61 Revisited for the first time yesterday. . . . amazing! :-D

[zekeson]

23. Wouldn't be without it!

Love the warmer analog sound. Still have 7-800 LPs and over a hundred singles, most of which were never released to CD anyway. CDs probably make the bulk of the collection these days, but have lugged those LPs all over the US and will continue to should I move again.

[Mr. McD]

24. It's a bit dusty but I still have one

[gyopsy]

28. My dad has one

And his old record collection is still intact too.

Also, one of the best friends has two and a mixer but he's trying to learn how to make techno dance music with them.

[NightTrain]

29. Me, me, me!!!

I still have about 1,500 LPs and 2,000 singles. Gotta have something to play 'em on, too!

[kid shelleen]

31. I got two turntables...

...and a microphone...doo dah, doo dah.

Seriously, I have my old Pioneer PL-something, that needs a new belt and my Onkyo direct drive which is always going out of speed. Thank God for pitch control. Like some other folks here I dig that ca-ray-zee analog sound. If I had the jing I'd spring for a Marantz or Macintosh tube ensemble and really get that analog vibe a-cookin'.

[a_random_joel]

34. ME! I have 2 Technics 1200s

But then again I am a former underground DJ...

[TrogL]

36. Two of them

I still need to port my LP's to CD.

[Brewman_Jax]

39. Ex-DJ

Yes, I still have my turntable and vinyl. Will not let them go. Nope, not gonna do it.

[sangh0]

47. I got an AR turntable

It rocks!

[Kat45]

48. I have one, but I still have my receiver from 1980, and there's no

place to plug the turntable into it because I need to have my CD player plugged in. When I got that receiver, CD players weren't around yet, so there are no extra slots like there probably are on the newfangled ones.

:-)

[Dirk39]

53. Just bought a new one last year...

is there any other device, to play records?
I hate CD's and quit buying them years ago. Digital music is just for copying, it's in the nature of the digital technique. And i just hate those 4-CD scientific proofed over-remastered overproduced albums, that are bought to stay in the shelves.
I buy vinyl and steal digital.
Greetings from Germany,
Dirk

[aquaman]

54. Me, Me

Not only do I have one, but I actually use it as well. I still buy vinyl at a local music store whose specialty is lps. Don't get me wrong, I buy cds too, but there is something special vinyl.

[RobinA]

55. I Have One

and it's hooked up, but I rarely use it because the vinyl is in a closet. They will be coming out soon and the turntable will be spinning, because I'm asking for the machinery to change LPs into CDs for Christmas. I just got a car with a CD player and no tape player, so it's time to convert stuff to CD. Plus, I have a bunch of compilation tapes I've made for driving that I can't be without.

I refuse to buy the same album 3 times, LP - tape - CD, so I've still got a lot of faves on vinyl and homemade tape. I don't need digital quality classics, because I love the auditory artifacts the vinyl acquired during its life in the dorm. The pops and skips are as much a part of me as the actual music. I don't WANT pristine Fleetwood Mac, I want the time-scarred version. I know this is probably weird.

[Dirk39]

56. The technics-1210 is in the guiness book of records...

for the longest lasting consumer-electronic device ever. Love these stories about the earthquake in Japan and how the turntable got unbalanced cause the same production line was just going on and on and on unchanged for more than a decade. Usually they just go unchanged for about 6 month. I still don't understand why fetishist guys buy cars at all. Why the hell buying a car, when there's something like the 1210 available. I've never owned a car in my life and I'm 39 years old. Just lots of bicycles and turntables. Always be sure that you're girlfriend has a car and buy turntables...
Scratch from Germany,
Dirk

[-..__...]

57. Never mind who still has a turntable...

I have one (a Technics direct drive circa 1976), and about 5,000 vinyl albums. What I want to know is: when, what, why and where did a turntable become a 'musical instrument'? As in a 'turntablist'...

http://remixmag.com/ar/remix_turntablist_techniques_4/

No, dumbass, you're not supposed to "scratch' the records!...

HELLO!!!!

[Dirk39]

58. When the ruling class explored that we could reach out...

and touch their products. They quickly removed the classical tape recorders and replaced it with cassettes, when people started to touch the tapes and to stick the tapes. Then people started to use the cassette too. They invented the video-recorders: the cassette just disappears into a hiden place inside the machine. You can't look at it anymore. They steal what you just bought. The same with CD-Players. Just this drawer opens and the cd disappears again. Very few remaining parts of the electronic-proletariat started about 1980 to resist and to use the bourgeois-machines of reproduction and meaningless consumtion into prodution tools.
Paranoid,
Dirk

[a_random_joel]

64. Turntablism is an art

Yes, you can scratch the records.

Who you calling a dumbass?

[-..__...]

68. I suppose someone can make a case...

for playing a washboard, spoons, or making armpit queefs being an art. Thing is,
I doubt they'd be taken seriously.

"Who you calling a dumbass?"

Depends who's asking.

[a_random_joel]

73. Art is subjective

and I'm asking.

[mitchum]

70. Considering a "turntablist" an artist is akin to...

mistaking a waiter for the chef.

[a_random_joel]

74. To each his own.

Art is subjective. But your analogy is wrong. Nice try.

A waiter merely delivers food, no skill required.

A turntablist practices as much as any musician - perhaps sometimes more. I know - I've done both. Turntablism is extremely difficult, and in fact much harder than playing certain instruments. Again, I am talking from experience.

[oustemnow]

59. vinyl=petroleum products!

NO MUSIC FOR OIL!

In all seriousness, I'm an old fart of 35 and most of my bedrock stuff is on vinyl; of course I have a turntable to play it on.

[DemBones DemBones]

60. Yes, there's just no other way to play records, you know. . . n/t

[AntiBushRepub]

62. A pair

Of Technics 1200s

[a_random_joel]

65. 3 questions...

Are you really a repub? What is it about Bush that turned you off?

How can you be a DJ and a Repub? ... not a very good "mix", IMO.

[ButterflyBlood]

63. here

which I got about 2 years ago

[adityanm]

66. I still have it because I hate to throw away anything

I have a turn table but have not played it in years.
I have copied most of my records to cassette tape which is part of my turn table but I can get most of the music on internet by using Kazaa.

[mitchum]

67. I do...and the fine folks at Needle Depot sent me a new cartridge last wee

[carolinayellowdog]

69. And a psychic experience too!

Hey,

This gives me the chance to relate a very eerie experience I had last fall. Have about 300 albums, mostly late 60s early 70s folk-rock, but had not had a turntable to play them on for more than 10 years. One night last fall I suddenly got a "wild hair" to choose all my favorite old albums to play, and borrow an old mono player from work to play them on. Got to work the next morning, with 25 old albums in the car, and here comes the UPS man with a great big box containing a stereo with turntable, birthday gift arriving two months early from an old college friend.

What a strange feeling when I opened it.

CYD

[grasswire]

71. I've been looking....

.....for a nice old hi-fi stereo console in a beautiful wooden cabinet for a couple of years. Something from the sixties; a good brand so I can find needles. No luck. Not at rummage sales, not at thrift stores, not in the newspaper. Still looking.

[zekeson]

75. Try Ebay

I find them all the time at auctions locally, have sold a few on ebay over the years. Don't do it any more, but I know they sell out there. If you want the whole large console find one to bid on in your region and arrange pick up. They are great - I have purchased them to play 78's and have moved up in quality...

[CanuckAmok]

79. Mitsubishis LT-5V Linear Tracking, UPRIGHT turntable...

and two Technics 1200IIs

I want to trade the Mits for a conventional model. The upright doesn't really fit where I want to keep it.

[AntiCoup2K4]

72. Just because I have somewhere around 1000 CD's doesn't mean

That I kicked the turntable to the curb.. I'll never part with the vinyl.

Last record purchased (about 3 weeks ago)


Misfits - 12 Hits From Hell :evilgrin:

(grab it if you can find it.... only a few escaped the factory before the release was cancelled!)

[buddhamama]

76. i do

there's just something about the crackle and pops that lends a pecial quality to my older albums.

[SaveABug]

77. I do I do

The people around me wish I didn't, but that's their problem. I'll play the first Queen album or ELO World Record any damn time I want! I get into the '70s rock in addition to the new and inbetween stuff. If someone looked at my collection, they would think it was the collection of 4 or 5 different people.

[librechik]

80. yes, for our jazz 78s

great old collection of Bird and Dizzy