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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:42 PM
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My Fantastic Four comics came today!!
I won a large lot of early 1980's Fantastic Four comics on Ebay for about $15. This period was when writer/artist John Byrne took over for a really great run reminiscent of the Kirby years. I lost my originals years ago, so I've missed them a lot. I love eBay.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:51 PM
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1. The Invincible Sun! How are you?
I had some Fantastic Four comics when I was a kid. The only story line I can remember vividly was when they had to fight a township of evil witches in the Colorado Rockies. Do you know that one? How did it turn out?
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:58 PM
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4. I'm not certain
I barely remember most of them myself. I picked the FF up in the early 80's and read reprints of the old Kirby stuff.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:05 PM
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2. that would be issue 232 and up i believe
it was a great run.
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ACK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:09 PM
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3. John Byrne's version of the Fantastic Four is the best
Next to Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's.

There were times that I must wholly admit I felt that he drifted straight down into nostalgia as opposed to moving the characterization forward.

However, his version of that group is the version that should be help up as the mark for which all will be judged.

Kind of like Frank Miller's Batman from the Dark Knight Returns.

It is really to bad that he could really expand give more life to the Superman legend which he worked on for a long while.

Timothy Truman wrote Hawkworld that almost gave literary grace to the Hawkman legend.

Mike Grell made the hippy Green Arrow an urban warrior in the Longbow Hunters.

Frank Miller used great religious imagery to encapsulate the Batman legend.

There is life in the superhero legends still left to explore.

Todd McFarlane and David Michieline (sic)'s version of Spiderman may not have been high art but my god that was an entertaining book.

Chris Claremont along with John Byrne basically created the modern comic book with the X-men.

The Born Again series from Frank Miller off the Daredevil series can be argued as almost having a literary scope use of imagery and symbolism.

But, Kurt Busiek gave Marvel its only true Literary contention in terms of Superhero scop along with Alex Ross with Legends.

Still, Superman has languished. The big blue boyscout is the ultimate pop culture symbol of America as the immigrant son who moved from the small town to the big city to have a career and has a fatal flaw of too much trust in authority figures ... blah... blah ...

There has to be some hope for a Superman legend worthy of the characters place in comics.

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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 10:00 PM
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5. Superman
I was always a Captain Marvel man myself. As a kid I loved the C.C. Beck revival. I have always loved the Green Lantern/Green Arrow team up. I'm starting to collect silver age Adam Strange "Mystery in Space".
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ACK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 12:50 PM
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6. I tend to go for Silver Age Flash and
Got some Murphy Anderson Silver Age Atoms and going after Hawkman next.

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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 08:07 PM
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8. Murphy Anderson, Gil Kane, and Carmine Infantino
The Big 3 of the DC Silver Age. Damn, these three guys put out some awesome comics.
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 01:00 PM
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7. I've Got Issues 198-3xx in Storage
It was such a great run. I always loved Johnny Storm, he was my fave character.

I loved the whole storyline with him and Frankie Raye and Galactus. I think that was my favorite.

DTH
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ACK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 08:58 PM
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11. OMG! That was a classic storyline that marked a move
From simple adoration of the legend in my opinion to John Byrne really showcasing his story telling ability.

That was an awesome run.

The image of Johnny trying to follow Frankie Ray into space and sputtering out as he fell Icarus style back to earth that was sooo good.

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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 08:22 PM
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9. Wasn't Byrne the one who...
...changed the name of Invisible Girl to Invisible Woman and made her the most powerful member of the group? If so, more kudos for him, his X-Men run and revamping of Superman are indeed milestones....however his attempts at Wonder Woman and Spiderman were (to me) less than satisfactory, which is ok...the world of comics always seems to be hit or miss, sooner or later...even for the legends!

Anyways, glad you got your score!
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 08:28 PM
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10. Invisible Woman
Yeah, until Byrne got through with her, she damn near passed out each time she used her powers. Byrne's time on Superman was good too and I loved his work on the 1986 miniseries "Legends" for DC. I enjoyed his run on FF because he made it an enjoyable series again. Before he took it over, it was tired and honestly, quite boring. The post Jack Kirby era of the FF (1970-1981) was not a good time. I think his first Marvel work was a stint on the Avengers in the mid 1970's.
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ACK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:01 PM
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12. Correct though I honestly thought he could have done more
Edited on Fri May-21-04 09:03 PM by ACK
With his Superman run.

Don't flame me but I was looking for something more seminal and groundbreaking.

Did anyone every collect the Wally West post 1995 Flash series?

It was not high art but one of the most consistenly enjoyable series I ever collected and got me into collecting Silver Age comics at the same time.

On edit: Let us be clear his move to make Invisible girl a woman with the power and will of a truly grown woman was great.

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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:03 AM
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13. Flash
I tried hard to like the Wally West/Post Crisis 1987 series, but as a child of the 1970's who grew up reading Carmine Infantino's Barry Allen, it never took with me. I'm an old DC universe purist who honestly thought Crisis was handled all wrong. I've been outside the loop, but hasn't DC already undone the universe left by Crisis? I hated the way they treated Hal Jordan.
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