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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:46 PM
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Could someone help me debunking a Freeper-type e-mail?
I just got this in my e-mail.


Social Insecurity.
When Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. He promised:

1.) That participation in the Program would be completely voluntary,

2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual incomes into the Program,

3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income tax each year,

4.) That the money the participants put into the program would go into an independent "Trust Fund" rather than into the General operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program, and,

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income.

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month -- and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to "put away," you may be interested in the following:


Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent "Trust" fund and put it into the General fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the Democratically-controlled House and Senate.


Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.


Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the "tie-breaking" deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the U.S.


Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?

A: That's right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive SSI Social Security payments. The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it.

Talk to me again about how the Republicans want to take our Social Security away....


I'm almost positive it's a big load of shit, but need to know if there are any sites debunking it.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:48 PM
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1. Snopes
Edited on Fri May-14-04 12:49 PM by Kellanved
snopes link

Edit: fixed link
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:52 PM
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5. Thanks Kel.
Even money though the asshole who sent me this will ignore the debunking.
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galadrium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:48 PM
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2. If the repubs had their way there would be no social security.
Edited on Fri May-14-04 12:50 PM by galadrium
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Goldom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:49 PM
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3. false.
Edited on Fri May-14-04 12:50 PM by Goldom
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:50 PM
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4. Try Snopes.com
http://snopes.com

Search for "Social Security". The same e-mail has come up numerous times here at DU in the last couple of days. I'm sure there are more detailed debunkings in some of those replies.

Don't know why this old chestnut has become so popular right now.
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