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hobbes159 Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 01:08 PM
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CSPAN1 Now - "Club for Growth" press conference on their Dean commerical
Edited on Wed Jan-07-04 01:09 PM by hobbes159
This is the group that is putting out the ad in IA:

The man declares, "Howard Dean should take his tax-hiking, government-expanding, latte-drinking, sushi-eating, Volvo-driving, New York Times-reading . . ." His wife picks up the litany: "Hollywood-loving, left-wing freak show back to Vermont, where it belongs."

Stephen Moore, the club's president, said the "humorous" spot may not hurt Dean with Democratic primary voters. "To us it's the first general election ad," he said.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 01:09 PM
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1. And their new website "MoveRight"
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 01:12 PM
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2. Eliminate all taxes on income.
Start taxing capital.
:)
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 01:14 PM
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3. saw the ad...it was stupid....just like shrub
I thought this group is the one who does hair plugs...is it?
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Racenut20 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 01:14 PM
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4. I missed the thread this morning? Who is funding these wackos?
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hobbes159 Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 01:16 PM
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6. We'll have to wait until Feb to find out
If they raised money Q4 2003 they'll have to disclose it then.... they did say they have $5 million....
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 01:54 PM
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13. Funding
Here are the top ten contributors. Note that the companies listed may not have given directly, but individual contributors are consolidated by employer.

It's possible to search for an individual contributor on the IRS website, but it's a rather laborious process.

http://www.publici.org/527/search.aspx?act=com&orgid=96

One of the lasrgest single contributors (over $400,000) is Wes Clark's former boss.

http://www.publici.org/527/search.aspx?act=com&orgid=700&comid=96c
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 02:09 PM
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14. Great find!
Hmmm.. lots of names I recognize. If you dig a bit from those links you find lots of names. Why do you think they gave $50,000 to the Michigan Chamber of Commerce??? I know that some of their recipients were (hopefully) for services rendered. But 50k to a Chamber? What could that be for? There is a group that got the most loot from them, Red Sea LLC. They appear to be the hatchet men of the group. They're the ones that do the dirty work to the tune of over a million bux. Their portfolio includes a South Carolina connection, and a Tom DeLay connection.

It makes me so ill to think of all of these right wing groups using hate and lies and big money to take over our country. How many big money democratic groups like this are there? People don't understand the assault on democracy that was spawned by Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh, and the big money. Why don't people get it???

One of the reasons I support Dean is that he has the guts and the forum to attack this type of political trash. He has repeatedly spoke out against the likes of Jerry Falwell, and the others who are trying to take over our country. This stuff just pisses me off so much.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 01:14 PM
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5. "Latte drinking"
Comments on Atrios' blog last night reveal Vermont has two Starbucks; Texas has 405.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 02:19 PM
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15. Breaking it down to numbers:
Vermont: 619107 people, 2 Starbucks = ~310000 people/starbucks (heckuva line)

Texas: 22118509 people, 405 Starbucks = ~55,000 people/starbucks.

Ergo:

Per capita, Texas has about 5 times as much latte-drinking as Vermont. And may God have mercy on its soul. :beer:
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 01:17 PM
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7. Stephen Moore is a total hack
I saw him do a roundtable discussion on Bill Moyers' NOW about a year back, and Kevin Phillips was one of the other people on it. So was anti-corporate attorney Bill Lerach. They absolutely chewed Moore up and spit him back out, made him look like a complete fool.

He's a nutjob. He thinks that ANYTHING even resembling government regulation is evil, that corporate interests should be free to do whatever the hell they want.
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MR. ELECTABLE Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 01:25 PM
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8. I hope somebody asks them how much Clark gave them
It's sad to see how far the Clark campaign has sunk to slander Dean-- first the whole "he offered me VP" bullshit and now this...
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 01:34 PM
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9. I was just going to get on here and create a thread for this but I
see someone already has! This Stephen Moore is ridiculous! Did you see that ad about Dean making him seem extremely left of center??? A couple of old people wanted to send that liberal ear piercing Hollywood loving guy back to Vermont or something to that effect!!!! Geez! Now i think the Bushin30second ad ought to be the one where all the kids are emptying their piggybanks in a classroom to some corporate guy who says, "Thanks kids".

Why doesn't this Stephen Moore quit focusing on the "tax hike" and focus on the national debt!??!? And why do they call a repeal of Bush cuts a tax hike?? Isn't a repeal just not giving back what we've been paying any? I just don't get it. Where does he get his numbers? I am SSSSOOOOO mad!x(
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 01:38 PM
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10. what they are doing is giving us raw material for the next ad...fools
Creativity is stifled in the rethuglicans...all they think of is money/money/money
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 01:39 PM
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11. This is almost funny.
They think Iowa voters are going to be influenced by 30 seconds of childish name-calling? What an insult to their intelligence.
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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 01:44 PM
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12. Of course they'll be influenced
Negative attacks influence people, no matter how much you want to think they don't, and no matter how much everybody thinks they personally are immune to it and above it.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 03:09 PM
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16. Can't the Club for Growth afford better actors?
That ad is absolutely hysterical, but not for the reason some might think. I'm near the Iowa border right now and that ad is a bit of an insult to mid-Westerners. The funny thing is how truly awful those actors are; the look on the woman's face is priceless.
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