Judge (R) Accused Of Saying Women Ask To Get 'Smacked Around'

[ElsewheresDaughter]

CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS INSANE THINKING STILL EXSISTS IN 2004 AND BY A JUDGE/JUSTICE NO LESS :scared:
Drudge has this story but also fails to mention this judges party affiliation - Rethuglican

I personally know this fucker and his evil children....he is a republican judge/justice from my little (and i do mean LITTLE) village! we don't even have a traffic light! 400 K-12 student body in the school district which covers a 320 square miles..... we have PLENTY of Rethuglicns just like him! ...and it is 126 miles north of NYC not 100 as they printed

Hunter village is 50/60 miles south of Albany

http://www.wnbc.com/politics/2744811/detail.html

ALBANY, N.Y. -- A village judge has resigned after being accused of saying most women ask to get "smacked around" and that domestic violence cases are a waste of the court's time.

Hunter Village Justice Robert Hamley, 50, resigned after he "acknowledged that he could not successfully defend the charges against him," the state's Commission on Judicial Conduct announced Tuesday.

Hamley, who isn't a lawyer, resigned Nov. 17 from the $4,500-a-year, part-time job in the small Catskills village about 100 miles north of New York City. He had been justice since 1997; his term was to expire in 2005.

Hamley was accused of telling the victim of domestic violence that such cases are "dragged out" and a "waste of the court's time." He also was accused of telling a state trooper that most women enjoy being abused and they asked to get "smacked around," according to the commission.

Barbara Palmateer and Peg Hopper, director and executive director of Community Action of Greene County's domestic violence program, said Hamley's comments illustrate the need for more education.

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[veganwitch]

1. how far is this from oeneota?

my ex is from there.

i know this is totally off topic but that area is gorgeous.

and this dude is an asshole.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

3. vegan...about 60 miles east of oneonta...i take the kids there skating

every saturday..Hunter and Oneonta are in beautiful country...a paridise inhabited by demons(repukes)

i live in the mountians

[Bluzmann57]

2. Maybe this clown should be "smacked around"

I know a few people who would be perfectly willing to do just that. What a neanderthal.

[papau]

4. republican judge ? Gee the media didn't mention "GOP" - wonder why?

our wonderful not controlled by the right wing GOP media - they just act like they are.

[JitterbugPerfume]

9. Boy!! That is pretty scary

"most women enjoy getting smacked around?" I sure do not know any of these women <sarcasm>

[ElsewheresDaughter]

5. and i personally know the state trooper he said this to...he was in my

daughters class and in my home many times....this judge said this in front of a few people in the court room including the poor battered women :puke:

[H2O Man]

6. Gosh, ya think he ever beat his wife?

I've mentioned that I have been a psychiatric social worker for the past few decades. I read a tiny article on this case this morning. I do not think that this is uncommon thinking among some law enforcement and court folks. Having non-attorneys for "Justice of the Peace(s)" is perhaps an out-dated concept. Not that lawyers are all enlightened ... but there is far too often a nasty mentality that goes along with people who want to "adminster justice." Think of some of the bullies who become village cops. (Yikes!) Many are not concerned with battering, be it a spouse (wife or husband!) and do not really concerned about kids getting the crap knocked out of them.I've worked in two counties next to Oneonta (Otsego Co.), and found myself agreeing with a psychiatrist who worked here for about a half a year, and compared it to a 3rd world country.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

8. absolutely 3rd world country...i live in one on this mountiantop

[liberalhistorian]

11. I'm a paralegal, and I can tell

you that lawyers can be just as bigoted, ignorant, sexist, racist, and biased as anyone else. Just because they're lawyers doesn't automatically mean they're going to be enlightened and fair-minded. And this kind of shit happens all the time with judges, too, real judges, not just village idiots-uh, I mean, justices.

[maxanne]

7. honest to maude

I wish there were a women's army to go smack this idiot around.

[JitterbugPerfume]

10. as an ex-abused wife

I do to maxanne I would be proud to join THAT Army

[H2O Man]

12. No you don't.

It is much better to: (a) make sure that he & people like him are not elected to office; (b) recognize that if a NYS Trooper is among those who testified to the NYS Committee on Judicial Misconduct, (to remove this turd) then that is encouraging; (c) there should be legal consequences for this type of verbal violence, such as the fellow being sentenced to complete a domestic violence course.
It is extremely difficult to live in an area where violence is simply snickered at by some D.A.'s, justices, and police. We have had problems a few years back with a racist gang of thugs that attacked non-white men. You may have read about the incidents in Bainbridge, NY ans SUNY-Binghamton. The psychopaths attacking innocent people got mere slaps on the wrist ... one of the most severe sentences a 280lb man got for punching and kicking an unconscious black teen-ager was a $50 fine -- because he had AN OPEN BEER IN PUBLIC! No penalty for the vicious attack.
Violence does not resolve violence. And, NO, I am not a pacifist. I agree with Malcolm X that sometimes "turning the other cheek" implies breaking the other guy's jaw. But in this case, it would be better to LOBBY OTHER MEDIAS to cover this story! Please: e-mail AP, MSNBC, etc. This story has the potential to become VERY BIG. It is an ideal educational resource.
(P.S.: if a dog has rabies, you don't beat it. you walk it behind the barn.)

[ElsewheresDaughter]

13. the story is also in todays NY Post

[papau]

16. NY Post "judge" "divorced " - but no mention of "GOP" - wonder why?

Do GOP elected Judges and Mayors lose the GOP when hit by scandal - a rather neat media rule!

:-)

http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/5071.htm

January 7, 2004 -- ALBANY - An upstate judge has resigned after allegations that he called domestic violence cases a "waste of the court's time" and said that women ask to be "smacked around," the state Commission on Judicial Conduct revealed yesterday.
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Hamley, 50, had been a village judge since 1997. His term was set to expire next year.

His lawyer, Sean Doolan, said the judge resigned because defending the charges would have been too costly for a part-time job that pays just $4,500 a year.

Doolan said Hamley - who is divorced - denies making the offending statements to the woman and the trooper. He added that the trooper "had an ax to grind" against the judge.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

17. it is an unwritten rule of the GOP and..

"His lawyer, Sean Doolan, said the judge resigned because defending the charges would have been too costly for a part-time job that pays just $4,500 a year."

but fails to mention that Hamley owns his own business in the ski resort town

[tom_paine]

21. Of course, that is the Amerikan Corporate Pravda way

Wholly unremarkable to even bother pointing it out anymore.

Once in a blue moon, a Republican mired in scandal will be identified as such.

BUT.. Only once in a blue moon will a Democrat mired in scandal NOT be identified as such.

Orwellian and Totalitarian, but that's just the way it is...

[maxanne]

14. yes I do

H20 Man.

The criminal justice system was designed by (and for) men. Men write the laws, and men enforce them.

This isn't particularly beneficial to women. We are still being beaten, raped, and killed every day - to little outcry - and little justice. If we organized and fought back - with force - I believe that the beatings, rapings, and killings would be diminished considerably.

[H2O Man]

18. You could try it, but....

my guess is you will not succeed in reaching your original goal. I am not going to try to "convince" you that my position is somehow better, but there are a couple things to at least consider: (1) All men are not violent. All violent people are not men. (2) All violent people are dangerous. A % can change their behavior, and thus maybe it is best to TRY to reach them. Those who CAN NOT change, be they men or women, need to be removed from any position in society - ANY - in which they can harm others. Jail is a really good start. (In fact, many men & women who ARE able to change find jail time beneficial.) (3) You are correct that "men" wrote the laws. Specifically, white men. The law really doesn't tend to favor black, brown, red, or yellow men. Thus it is ALWAYS a POWER issue. (4) There is growing documentation of a significant amount of FEMALE violence, which includes battering and co-battering. In case you wish to blame men, I'd note that there is an unfortunetely high incidence in lesbian couples. (5) In the three counties that I am familiar with, the majority of family violence occures in female-headed, single parent families, where mom beats the kids.
My intent is NOT to point fingers. I think ALL family/social violence is wrong. I am not in favor of making excuses, be the violent offended a man or woman, rich or poor,etc etc. My goal would be to get all stable, non-violent together, not as a vigilante/mercenary type of outfit, but to use the POWER of the Good Mind!
Last thing: please remember that bitterness only contaminates the vessle which contains it. I have sympathy for victims of violence, in all of its manifest forms, but the message is the same: Respond! Do not "react."
I hope you read this with an open mind. Thank you, and I assure you that I read your posts with an equally open mind! I am your friend.

[lazarus]

20. Heh

Yeah, violence is the answer.

Good way to show you're better than the men you've painted with a broad brush.

:eyes:

[laruemtt]

15. another ex-abusee here

and i KNOW when i was beaten out of a sound sleep it's because i was talking in my sleep begging to be smacked :crazy:

[Desperadoe]

19. As The Dixie Chicks say..............

..........Goodbye Earl....:)