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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 06:07 PM
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Moveon.org is a front organization for WWP..so say rightie
www.tocquevillian.com/tocqlogarchives/001620.html:

The Communist Party Removes MoveOn.Org Link
From Website Following TXCAN Alert.

Showing us once again how low the right will go to defeat us in 2004!!

Two weeks ago, TXCAN, a Texas Conservative Voters' organization revealed that MoveOn.Org was deeply involved with the Communist Party USA.

The Communist Party USA has removed the prominent MoveOn.Org link from their web site www.cpusa.org A nation wide alert showing the link between the Communist Party and the Democrat support group, MoveOn.Org revealed the two groups are 'comrades'.

MoveOn.Org has boasted about raising a million dollars through the internet to support the truant Texas State Senators in New Mexico. A link on the Communist Party USA website took people directly to MoveOn.Org where donations were sought. The Communist Party has also removed a page titled "Action Alert #10" that solicited support from communists for MoveOn.Org. Obviously, the two groups enjoy 'solidarity'.


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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 06:08 PM
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1. Yes we are not surprised that they are gonig this far
they are scared, tehy know that they are probably on the loosing side

And yes the Right will go to ANY extent.. even the old stand by, Red Baiting
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 06:49 PM
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17. If some dimwit hasn't called me a Communist by noon
...I feel the day's in danger of being a wasted day.
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colonel odis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 06:09 PM
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2. i thought moveon was owned by the clintons
isn't that what rush said yesterday?
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spindoctor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 06:11 PM
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4. The Clintons are communists?
I KNEW it!
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 03:23 PM
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35. Not only that, but Bill Clinton invented sex!
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 06:14 PM
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6. Don't you get it?
The Clintons are the Communists!!!!!

I swear to God, the conservatives will never get over the Cold war.

They always have to have a scapegoat. If its not blacks, muslims, latinos, or non-Christians, then it is always communists.

And the truly remarkable thing about this is that it works very well.

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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 06:16 PM
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8. By the way
Hi

:hi:

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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 06:43 PM
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16. There's always
the homosexual.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 06:15 PM
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7. dunno, but he's a whacked-out druggie loser
you probably shouldn't listen to him
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Danocrat Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 06:25 PM
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11. Rumor has it
that when you view the source code for the MoveOn home page, it makes a silhouette of Clinton's penis.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 06:11 PM
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3. Is Satan a communist?
I guess that would make Jesus a capitalist.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 06:14 PM
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5. Oh my god!!! It's a communist takeover of our American way of life!!!!!
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKKK!!!!!!!

:eyes:
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 06:16 PM
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9. I just had to laugh out loud
If moveon is communist, then I'm a communist.

And I am definitely not a communist.

God these people just HATE democracy, don't they? They just can't STAND free speech
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 06:18 PM
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10. The Guy Bush was partying with from Red China is a Commie!
Bush and him seemed to hit it off great!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 06:28 PM
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12. But...but...but.....they're businessmen.
And everyone knows that businessmen can't be communists.

China's just pretending. You'll see. They're really fascist.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 08:40 PM
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29. How About All The Looney Toon RW Orgs Who Support Bush?
Like the White Supremecists etc??? THE SAME ONES WHO LITERALLY WANT TO OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT...

They will have a really hard time calling anybody "extremist" with their "Facsist Lite" agenda....sheesh...
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 06:29 PM
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13. So when is some 'centrist Democrat' going to come along...
Edited on Tue Jan-06-04 06:30 PM by htuttle
...and tell us that this is somehow the fault of leftists? That we did something to provoke them into red baiting? There were two links FROM the CPUSA website to Move On. No links from Move On to the CPUSA website. Yet somehow that makes them 'deeply involved'.

Same goes for the 'Hitler ad' which was never actually an 'ad'. It was an external submission to a contest. It would never have been shown on TV, since it's score was too low -- to be frank, it wasn't that good. There were WAY better ones. Yet we're told that we must apologize for somebody else submitting it to the contest.

It doesn't matter what the left does or doesn't do. The right will still make something up to attack us.

People will judge the validity of an accusation based upon OUR REACTION TO IT. If we shrink away and act guilty, people will assume we did something wrong, even if they don't quite understand what it was! Man, basic freaking psychology -- okay, maybe 'street psychology', but still basic. If you learn nothing else from watching the Bush Mob, at least learn this one.

The only way to respond to this sort of smear is to stand up to it, not folding to it like Alan Colmes!
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 07:22 PM
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25. Great post, htuttle!
"It doesn't matter what the left does or doesn't do. The right will still make something up to attack us.

People will judge the validity of an accusation based upon OUR REACTION TO IT. If we shrink away and act guilty, people will assume we did something wrong, even if they don't quite understand what it was! Man, basic freaking psychology -- okay, maybe 'street psychology', but still basic. If you learn nothing else from watching the Bush Mob, at least learn this one.

The only way to respond to this sort of smear is to stand up to it, not folding to it like Alan Colmes!"


This is the crux of it all. They know they can get to us.

Every DUer should print out the above and tape it to their bathroom mirror so they can reaffirm the truth of it every morning.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 06:32 PM
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14. If moveon.org is a front for communists,
Then isn't it at least reasonable to say that the bush administration is a front for lying corporate criminals who stole millions from American citizens, the religious right and its twisted agenda to eliminate non-Christians, and Saudi Arabia and every act of terrorism that it sponsors???
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 06:34 PM
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15. Same old boring shite.
By such convoluted "logic", then the KKK and the Busheviks also enjoy "solidarity" for the same reason.

Not that a little thing like that could get in the way of the Lying Liars and the Lies They Tell.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 06:55 PM
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18. Reading the Tocq, are you?
There's a good use of your time. :puke:

It is, alas, no more. Out of business, and dead as a doornail, not that it's missed by many.

Gene Royer, the writer of these comments, is not really such a bad guy, and does tend to have fun trolling with this sort of stuff. He used to have tons of fun on usenet groups riling up us filthy, godless comminnists with this nonsense on a regular basis. I think he has a job now, so he's heard from less lately. He goes over the edge sometimes, and it's tough to know how much of this crap he really believes. He does put on a good show, though. One of the best trolls I've seen in a long time.

Wayne Lutz, good friend of Royer, and the proprietor of the late, unlamented Tocq, is still around and has been otherwise busy at more "productive" ventures:

http://www.stopjoehoeffel.org/index.html

I have personally met Wayne and a number of his "editorial" staff, and they're actually not bad people, most of the time. I shall forego repeating some nasty gossip (but be a punk and let you guess anyway, just by mentioning that some exists) and simply say that if you leave politics out of it, (not that difficult, really) they are not bad people to hang out with at a party.

They are, however, most deinitely very, very, rightwing.



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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 07:02 PM
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19. I guess I'm a communist....I supported moveon.org with funds
and I will continue to do so.

Desperation is dripping from the rethuglicans. Poor bastards.

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ldoolin Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 07:03 PM
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20. Commies in the closet! Commies under the bed! Commies in the cornfield!
Something about fluoridation of the water, the contamination of our precious bodily fluids, "premature anti-fascists", blacklisting the Hollywood pinks and reds, commies under the bed, commies hiding in the closet, commies hiding in the kitchen cupboard, yak yak yak yak... Right wingers are morons, always have been, and always will be.

Sorry, I'm not in a good mood today. My (formerly) favorite radio station just changed formats as of yesterday, from oldies to right-wing hate talk, as in Limbaaah in the morning, Sean Hannity in the afternoon, and Mike Raygun in the evening. Screw 'em, I'm making a list of all their advertisers right now and boycotting 'em. Imagine my disgust at tuning the radio to AM 970 and finding that Nazi scumbag demagogue Sean Hannity on, instead of the Rolling Stones and Steppenwolf. Screw 'em.
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 07:21 PM
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24. The same thing happened in Des Moines
a popular radio station on the FM side went to all talk, but most of its right-wing BS..

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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 07:10 PM
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21. these are great posts, you guys! LOLOL!!
Humor is the best response to wingnut tripe. :silly:
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 07:15 PM
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22. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Not the evil communists!!!! It couldn't be the evil communists!!! Say it ain't so, not the COMMUNISTS!!!!

Dear Gods will those people ever give it a rest? That boogeyman doesn't have teeth anymore.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 07:21 PM
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23. Oh crap, we're busted
.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 07:25 PM
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26. I'll side with the socialists before the fascists anyday.
in fact, I'd never side with the fascists, at all.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 07:35 PM
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27. RED ALERT! RED ALERT! RED ALERT!....same old McCarthyism shit
Edited on Tue Jan-06-04 08:23 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
when will the repukes ever MOVE ON????
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 08:37 PM
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28. Gasp! Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been...
I luuuuv MoveOn.org!! God bless the truth tellers...

It must be nice for these people to have such a gullible (read: stupid) base but I really do think this kind of capital-S "SStupid" is gonna turn off a lot of more casual GOP voters.
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OldCurmudgeon Donating Member (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:14 AM
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31. Took a look at their "30 second" ad finalists...
Took a look at their "30 second" ad finalists this morning (www.bushin30seconds.org).

I'm amazed. There's at least a couple of the finalists that have the same kind of power as that old "girl picking daisies/countdown/mushroom cloud" ad from the 60's that did in Goldwater. No wonder the 'wingers are frothing at the mouth at MoveOn.

Rove better be wearing brown pants when the winner goes on the air.
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OldSoldier Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:00 AM
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30. A link reveals the two groups are "comrades"?
When I still had a website, I had a link to Richard Childress Racing on it. Doesn't mean I'm going over the wall to service the 29 any time soon.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:24 AM
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32. Someone ought to make a page of nazi and GOP links
and "prove" the two are related just because of that. *lol*
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 02:23 PM
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33. Mabye I'll do that
when I have some more time..

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 02:51 PM
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34. Ah......the old "Red Baiting Scenario" returns. Joe McCarthy is begging
to get out of his grave! He would be welcomed with rose petals and scented oils by the RW.

Actually it appears he never died but was "cloned" and is hiding out in Limbaugh's basement in Palm Beach.

This is too disgusting, but figured it would come.
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