The "right" (?) Wingers are after TARGET now!!

[loudsue]

Just got this e-mail from a millionairess friend of mine... I can't BELIEVE the crap these guys fall for!!

:argh:

"Subject: FW: This is something to think about

You may want to re-think your shopping habits.


by Dick Forrey of the Vietnam Veterans Association



Recently we asked the local TARGET store to be a
proud sponsor of
the
Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall during our spring
recognition event.

We received the following reply from the local
TARGET management:
"Veterans do not meet our area of giving. We only
donate to the arts,
social action groups, gay &lesbian causes, and
education."

So I'm thinking, if the Vietnam Veterans Memorial
Wall and veterans
in
general do not meet their donation criteria, then
something is really
wrong
at this TARGET store. We were not asking for
thousands of dollars, not
even
hundreds, just a small sponsorship for a memorial
remembrance.

As a follow-up, I e-mailed the TARGET U.S. corporate headquarters and
their response was the same. That's their national policy.

Then I looked into the company further. They will
not allow the
Marines
to collect for 'Toys for Tots' at any of their stores.
And during the
recent Iraq deployment, they would not allow families
of employees who
were
called up for active duty to continue their insurance
coverage while
they
were on military service. Then as I dig further,
TARGET is a
French-owned
corporation.

Now, I'm thinking again. If TARGET can not support
American
Veterans,
then why should I and my family support their stores
by spending our
hard
earned American dollars and to have their profits sent
to France.
Without
the American Vets, where would France be today?

Feel free to pass this along to whomever you want.

Sincerely,

Dick Forrey

Veterans helping Veterans"


:tinfoilhat: Sounds like a WalMart ploy to me.:tinfoilhat:

I ESPECIALLY like the part:
"We only donate to the arts, social action groups, gay &lesbian causes".

So much horsesh**, so little time.

[Cooley Hurd]

1. Snopes link - it's false...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/target.asp

<snip>Status:
The Target Corporation does not contribute to veterans' causes: False.
The Target Corporation is French-owned: False.
The Target Corporation provides corporate grants only for 'gay and lesbian causes': False.
The Target Corporation does not contribute to the U.S. Marines 'Toys for Tots' program: False.
The Target Corporation does not allow reservists called to active duty to continue their health benefits: False.
</snip>

[outinforce]

2. This story about Target is not true

I believe this issue has been addressed in earlier threads here on DU, and I also think that snopes has some information about it.

on edit:

see the information provided at this link: http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/target.asp

[northzax]

3. it's one hundred percent true.

but it doesn't tell the whole story, like most of these. check out the snopes link to the story: http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/target.asp

Individual stores are not allowed to donate cash. the corporation is, in fact, one of the sponsors of the exhibit as a whole.

[K8-EEE]

10. It's 100 percent NOT true...

And I've gotten it from a slew of RW idiots who don't even check. The giving is handled at the corporate level rather than individual stores...they did give to the thing this guy is ranting about, they just didn't hand over money to HIM on demand and he went on a rampage...

Then they say stuff like it's "french owned" and supports gays and all that, LOL!!

I always forward to the list saying it's bullshit...but if they wanna get pissed at something, they don't want to hear the truth, heck, they vote for GWB what do you expect??

[northzax]

13. well the first part

is 100 percent true. the store did, indeed, refuse to give money to the Wall project. if you go ask the local target to donate money, they will say no. that's true, right?

what I was trying to point out is that the story is true, but it fails to tell the whole story, and when you look at the whole story, it explains the first part. this is typical of this type of forward, using a small portion of the story to make someone look bad/good, without the all important contextual details.

[priller]

22. If you're not telling the whole story, then it's NOT 100% true

It's a very common way to deceive. That's why, when under oath, you swear to tell the truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing but the truth.

[loudsue]

12. Your post title-bar says "it's one hundred percent true"...

The linked article doesn't reflect that statement:

The article refutes almost the entire e-mail I received: The only "part" that is true is that the local Target store didn't give the Vet in question the full info on how to get the grant.

The part about activist groups and gay/lesbians is false
The part about being French-owned is false
etc.
etc.

Just wanted to clear that up!

:kick:

[Sir_Shrek]

4. Snopes is already all over it...

Long-debunked urban myth.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

5. ahahaha

yeah, i like that part too. They might as well have thrown in "Christian-baby-eating cults" for good measure.

[LoZoccolo]

6. This is a hoax email.

It is debunked on snopes.com:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/target.asp

I think that if when we get these things, if we give them the rebuttal, we might cause enough embarassment that the people we get these from might think twice before passing on this kind of slander.

I do think it's funny that they tried to fabricate Target's response but it sounds fabricated and non-corporate-PR-like.

[LoZoccolo]

9. OR...

...you might just pass on the Snopes link to everyone else you see on the "to" line! Might make someone think twice about passing this stuff on.

[kath]

7. Yep, it's an urban legend that's gone around in various forms

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl-target-veterans.htm

[starroute]

8. Debunked long ago

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/target.asp

Granted, Target deserves a small share of criticism for initially failing to explain their policies clearly to Mr. Forrey when he approached them, but the stance presented in the message quoted above — that a company which won't financially contribute to someone's pet project doesn't "support" whatever cause is being represented and should therefore be boycotted by all like-minded people — is a selfish one, and in this case a grossly unfair one. The Target Corporation donates a tremendous amount of money to charitable causes every year, and in both 2002 and 2003 they topped Forbes magazine's list of "America's Most Philanthropic Companies." Among the many organizations to which Target donates are veteran-related causes, including exhibits like the one for which Mr. Forrey was seeking a contribution.

[underpants]

11. Tarjay French owned?

As soon as I read that they only give to arts and gay&lesbian etc. groups I knew this was BS.

[K8-EEE]

14. RW-ers Are Delusional

It never even occurs to any of them to look and see if this obvious BS is even a little true...not do they seem to be looking at the "peaceful" world GWB is creating for us, nor who is benefitting from it. Don't under estimate the "S" factor in this election (S-tupid) but I have faith that more and more people are getting hip -- even GOPs.

[loudsue]

15. This kind of e-mail usually comes with a long list of people

who it was sent to. When I send back a rebuttal "reply to all", then everyone gets to see how much crapolla the e-mail was, and the sender gets REALLY upset!

In fact, I have a R/W cousin who won't speak to me because of it!

:shrug:I'm not losing sleep over the silence!:shrug:

Thanks for the snopes link on this....

Sue

[tom_paine]

16. Sounds like the customary Bushevik blast e-mail of LIES

(yawn)

I guess I shouldn't be yawning. Hitler rose to power on such things. (subtracting, of course, the technological progress of the past 70 years)

[dkamin]

17. HAHAHA

this is obviously fake, and a testament to the stupidity of right-wingers.

[Dogmudgeon]

18. How can I get RW hate mail?

I'd like to be able to reply to 50-500 of these Rectal Righties at one time, and getting flame spam is a good way to do it -- most of the flame spammers do not hide their mail recipient lists.

A golden opportunity presents itself ... bullseye!

--bkl
It's a sign of the times.

[Jim Sagle]

19. And now for the REST of the story - the motive.

Target is part of the Dayton-Hudson store chain. One of the owners is DEMOCRATIC Senator Mark Dayton.

[yellowcanine]

20. Did a little checking - it appears to me that Forrey is a fraud

First of all, I can find no organization called the Vietnam Veterns' Association. There is a Vietnam Era Veterns Association - but I don't think that Forrey has any connection. Forrey apparently is associated with a Howard County Vietnam Veterns Association in Indiana - your guess is as good as mine how many members he represents....
As other posts point out, most of the "facts" in the e-mail are totally bogus and "designed" to inflame homophobic and jingoist passions. The references to gay and lesbian causes, health benefits, toys for tots, French ownership, etc all appear to be made up. I would think Target might even have a basis for a slander suit if they wouldn't rather just let this die. I would be surprised if "Dick Forrey" is even a real person. Perhaps he is a brother to Mary Rosh.

[dmkinsey]

21. RW er here at work had this BS

Monday. I was easily able to show that it's false but you know how they are- still wouldn't believe me. Especially the part about Target being "French owned". That's the worst insult the wingers can muster these days- it's French.
Anyway we know it's false but they believe what they believe and facts can't interfere with their belief.

[yellowcanine]

23. As Reagan said, "Facts are funny things"

One of the uses of "funny" is a description for an unusual occurance. To Rwingnuts, basing political positions and beliefs on facts is unusual, that must be why facts were "funny" to Reagan.

[no_arbusto]

24. FWD: is something that I now rarely see in my inbox

I've debunked so many forwards (political, hoax, terrorist threat, get rich quick by sending this to 10 friends, etc) that people don't even bother sending them to me anymore. I've actually lost touch with some people because that's all they ever used to send me. You know the type. You write them an email with your new address telling them how you're doing and they return the favor with something like "RE: FWD: Everyone!This is real.Don't eat cookies on Christmas."

I also once sent out one mass email telling people to stop sending me forwards because they were the reason I was getting spam. As proof, I pointed out how easy it was for me to "farm" all of their addresses from forwards and how easy it would be for spammers to do the same. It seems to have worked.