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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 01:54 AM
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fundamentalist missionaries find backlash in Sri Lanka . . .
signs of things to come in Iraq and elsewhere? . . .

Globalised fundamentalism versus tradition
(Presentation by Indrani Devendra at South Asian Dialogue/Society for International Development - Kathmandu, Nepal - 17-20 November 2003)

Daily News (Sri Lanka)
Friday, December 5, 2003

http://www.dailynews.lk/2003/12/05/fea12.html

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There was now an unprecedentedly rapid influx of these 'new' Christian groups whose emphasis was on the rapid spreading of their faith and the gaining of visible 'converts'. This was unheard of among the old Catholic and Protestant Churches who had lived amicably alongside Buddhists, Hindus and Muslims without trying to buy them over to their faith. This tolerance was anathema to the new fundamentalists. Their determination to extract as many 'lost souls' as possible from their traditional faiths to their own brands of fundamentalist/evangelical Christianity.

This campaign is being carried out using all the techniques of waging a war - against non-Christians. It is coordinated by the "Joshua Project" which publicises road maps for these fundamentalists to target their unsuspecting victims. It produces maps and profiles peoples on the basis of ethics, tribal and racial groups who are targeted as being in need of conversion to their particular variety of fundamentalist Christianity. India, Nepal and Sri Lanka have been thus mapped and profiled.

What is objectionable in this fundamentalist campaign is not its desire to gain adherents, but in its determination to totally alienate their converts from all their traditions and all 'non-believers'.

Many cases have been documented in Sri Lanka of new converts being urged to publicly destroy symbols of their earlier faith, such as images, pictures and prayer books. These public actions serve to alienate them absolutely from their family and community and,, unfortunately but inevitably, provoke violent reactions.

- much more . . .

http://www.dailynews.lk/2003/12/05/fea12.html

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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 02:05 AM
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1. just damn
why doesent anyone just kill these people?
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 02:08 AM
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2. Are you going for thebigidea's mantle?
He invented that technique, man!
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 02:11 AM
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3. i'm sorry but these things are no longer people
they are diseased beasts that need to be destroyed
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JasonDeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 02:13 AM
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4. Theres noting 'new' re: these Christian groups,
Christians have been getting folk saved since Christ commanded them "to go out and make deciples of all the nations." And he said, "Because they hated Me, they'll hate you." And don't you think re: destroying all the vestiges of their past ways if it doesn't offend those destroying the articles it shouldn't bother anyone else? And if destroying that which offends causes violence, who is the guilty, those who commit violence or those who have the violence committed against them?
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 02:16 AM
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5. What's fair, is fair...
I think that we should advocate some Hindu, Buddhist, and Isalmic fundamentalist groups to do the same here. Then, when the 'Christian' fundies cry foul, we can point out to them that they are doing the same thing, and that there is nothing wrong, by their own standards, with burning a cross in ones driveway. :evilfrown:
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 02:22 AM
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6. Buddahsts dont
go around trying to "convert" people, but they will tell you about buddahisim if asked, as for Islamic Fundies, thier like nazi's and are for racial purity, they wouldent accept other people
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 02:24 AM
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7. I am aware of the differences, but thanks anyway...
my point was really about giving the 'Christian' fundies something to think about.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 02:41 AM
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8. yeah
i'm in the mood to rain on peoples parades today
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 02:51 AM
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9. Errrr....
You said "as for Islamic Fundies, thier like nazi's and are for racial purity".

May I ask, what race are muslims ? Sorry, but there is no "muslim race". Islam crosses all racial and cultural lines - Arabs, Persians, Ethiopians, Somalis, Indians, Singaporians, Chinese. Irish and French - are but a few. Please, show me where any scholar of Islam advocates "racial purity" and I will show you in the Quran and Hadith where the first followers of the prophet included a white man and an african along with his arab companions- and where Allah states that all muslims are brothers and sisters.

Islam does not activly try to convert because the Quran states- "There shall be no compulsion in religion" - not because of any racial reason.

And that's about as "fundimentaly Islamic" as you can get :Silly:

Peace
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 03:01 AM
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10. every religion has its insane people
sadly it is those that get all the air time
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 03:12 AM
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11. Thats very true...
It's truly sad when the crazy and vocal/active minority is percived as the majority.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 04:00 AM
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12. they are dangerous
and thats my whole point, they need to be stopped
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 07:48 AM
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13. especially when the majority enables it by remaining silent
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 07:58 AM
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14. that's nonsense
Edited on Tue Jan-06-04 07:59 AM by Aidoneus
as for Islamic Fundies, thier like nazi's and are for racial purity, they wouldent accept other people

Even--or especially--among the so-called "fundies" (a ridiculous term taken to ridiculous lengths), the strongest aspect to Islam is the fact that it entirely trancends "race" and such silliness.
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ithacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 08:01 AM
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15. these fundies are also part of Bush's Iraq "reconstruction"
just go to google and type in Iraq and missionaries...
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