Ron Reagan on CNBC Special Report trashing Bush.

[moondust]

Wow! Chewed him up and spit him out twenty different ways! He sounded like a DUer! Maria Bartoromo (host) looked like she was going into shock!

Maria: "How is George W. Bush different than your father?"

Ron: "My father is a man. George W. Bush couldn't carry his gym socks."

LOTS more. Really ripped him up in prime time. Catch it if it repeats.

[Melsky]

1. Never thought I would say this, but

GO REAGAN!

There is an interview with him on Salon where he slags off on Bush pretty well too.

[lcordero]

2. His father is probably mentally sharper than Bush

[Democrats unite]

4. LOL!

eom

[blm]

14. LOLOLOL

;

[newyawker99]

52. ROFL!!

:D

[PROGRESSIVE1]

3. Bush also doesn't have ldeals or a mandate either!

.

[leftofthedial]

5. Plus, like it or not, Reagan was elected

twice. Bush can never say that.

[Skittles]

24. yes; Reagan disgusted me

but I always accepted him as my president, like it or not

[GCP]

49. Neither Bush can ever say it

:evilgrin:

[Name removed]

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[SeveneightyWhoa]

8. Last time I heard..

..most freepers were idiots. You'd fit well into that classification.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

13. I must confer with you Seveneightywhoa!

This guy will NOT last long here.

[CatWoman]

9. what are you smoking?

bush's jock strap?

[ChiefHappyButt]

11. Look at yourself in the mirror

and ask "Is this what I've become? Some small minded, hatred filled, uneducated jerkwad fool?"

Must be tough being you.

must BE tough being you.

Repeat after me "I hate all living things, therefore I deserve to die"

[newyawker99]

53. Hi ChiefHappyButt!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[alcuno]

15. Obviously they each have their own opinion.

I actually think that if Michael's father could hear him, he would be very disappointed as Michael has become increasingly strident in his old age. He really does not do justice to his father.

[Timefortruth]

19. Michael is a moran.

nt

[coloradodem2005]

7. Not Surprising.

He talked about how he resented the comparisons between Bush and his father and he considers himself a liberal, or as he likes to say, rational.

[H2O Man]

10. For further "Reagan" anti-bush info, please read....

.... The House of Bush, by Eric Bates in Rolling Stone (1-22-04) He interviews Kevin Phillips, a former Nixon political strategist who was influential in republican politics for decades. Bates has just come out with a new book, American Dynasty, in which he TRASHES the bush family. I've only just read Bates' article, which is great, and will have to read Phillips' book.
It is important that we make use of anything such as this .... to cause a divide in the republican support for this administration. It does not mean that Dean supporters need to become conservative ... but it does mean we can learn from our enemies' tricks for dividing and conquering.
Have any of you read this article?

[Hailtothechimp]

35. I read it. The whole issue of RS is a must read for everyone (DU or not).

Kevin Phillips, the architect of Nixon's "Southern Strategy" has turned against bu$h. This article alone is almost worth the $3.95 cover price. But there's more.

Also, the tail end of the interview with Dave Matthews (who is on the cover) indicated that he wants this administration gone too. Here's what he said: "...The most important task facing America right now is to get this administration out of power. I think they're a very dangerous bunch, riddled with very dangerous minds. There's a very ignorant view in the White House: a thoughtless, fundamentalist, scary view of how to better the world. I'm truly frightened of this administration." There's a little bit more, but you can see where he's going with this.

And then there is an article showing what an ignoramus Toby Keith is. Not a fun read, but it does prove that all of his jingoist posturing is not an act at all, but who he really is. Scary stuff.

We all knew what side Rolling Stone was going to be on. But these stories, coming on the heels of RFK Jr's piece on bu$h and the environment in the previous issue, show that they are going at it full throttle.

[librechik]

42. "American Dynasty" : I just got my copy!

hot off the presses!

subtitled "Aristocracy, Fortune, and the Politics of Deceit"

don't forget, Phillips is a Republican!

here it is at Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0670032646/qid=1073403919/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-5857130-7040066?v=glance&s=books

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

48. Buzzflash has it as a premium too. nt

nt

[UrbScotty]

12. I think he's been looking at DU a lot lately!

He said Duh-bya lost the last election by 500,000 votes.

He also said Duh-bya's administration is secretive, and thus it is contradictory to the openness Americans should be able to expect from their government. In his mind, the worst thing Bush could do politically is to expose himself.

:toast:

[blm]

16. The Reagan kids think all the covert stuff was done by Bush Sr.

and done behind their dad's back. I agree with much of their point. I think there was plenty done by the BFEE to manipulate Reagan.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

20. I must agree. Bush 41 was behind the dirty dealings of the....

Reagan administration.

[daveskilt]

22. bush sr and ...

the current bush staff. cheney, rumsfeld etc all in on the dirty regean years.

I have a theory that when w was selected he panicked and asked his dad what to do. george senior let him defrost the old cabinet (who seem to have been stuck in the 80s through the last 3 years - a result of their chryogenic freezing.) and reprogram them to say terrorist instead of commie. voila! instantly cow the public into goosestepping along behind by playing to their fears

[Octafish]

23. Hinckley and Bush families like THIS (fingers held together)!

That famous scion of pent-up energy, Neil Bush, was to dine with Scott Hinckley the same day his brother John Hinckley opened up on Pruneface. What's weird is that the reporter on the scene said shots also came from above. That story disappeared, pronto. Nice people, that Bush Organized Crime Family. Real nice...

NEIL BUSH (AND HIS FAMILY)—I
 
    In the millions of words written in the national news media about Neil Bush and his part in the Silverado Savings & Loan scandal, no reference has been made to an extremely significant fact of his life.

     Neil Bush, son of the then vice president of the United States, was scheduled to have dinner on March 31, 1981, with Scott Hinckley, brother of John Hinckley, the day after a bullet came within an inch of making Neil Bush's father the new president of the United States.

     Even though John Chancellor had let slip out this most remarkable assassination coincidence shortly after John Hinckley tried to kill President Reagan, it was censored by NBC News and the other organs of the national news media during thesubsequent 10 years. And even in the several months of extensive coverage of Neil Bush's part in the massive savings and loan fraud, no mention was made of his role in the continuing coverup of the most significant story in the 1980s.

     Back in 1981, I thought the dinner engagement was so extraordinary that I looked everywhere for it in the days following Chancellor's raised-eyebrow report in the hours after the shooting. One magazine laughed at it and a few smaller papers carried a story by United Press International, but the Associated Press and the other major news outlets, in response to my numerous protests, made clear to me that they had no intention of letting the American people learn of Neil Bush's connection to the Hinckleys or, for that matter, the many other astonishing unanswered questions in the wake of the Bush-Hinckley coverup.

CONTINUED...

http://www.nathanielblumberg.com/neil.htm

[Bozita]

30. Neil Bush was to have dinner with Scott Hinckley on the day after ...

... the assassination attempt on President Reagan.

Nothing to see here, folks. Keep moving.

[Octafish]

32. Oh, yeah. The day AFTER changes everything.

That was when Bush's Poppy was supposed to be Preznit. How were they to know their celebration would get cancelled by some quick-witted and hard-working public servants and surgeons?

[Bozita]

33. That Blumberg piece deserves its own thread

Most Americans never knew of this.

Many DUers never heard of this.

Please bring it to their attention.

[proud patriot]

27. Yep I've been thinking more and more about this

I wonder just how much was poppy..

granted Reagan gassed Berkley all on his own .

[Octafish]

29. Yeah. And he wished there'd be a botulism outbreak...

... during the food giveaway ransom paid by the Hearst family to the Symbionese Liberation Army.

Pruneface is not a nice man. Ronnie Jr may be OK.

[daveskilt]

18. dear god no

I dont think I could handle another bush exposing himself. Neil and his herpes is quite enough indecent exposure from that family. although if he did flash the world on CNN (perhaps while standing on an aircraft carrier?) and waggle his willy - would it be enough to put al sharpton ahead in a bush v sharpton poll?

sadly, enough people stopped thinking long ago that bush still might get the votes to beat him. damnit. I just read about the first mexican american war. polk and W are scarily alike, which at least gives me hope that his abberrant behavior and random offensive policies can fade and be forgotten when we get a real president again.

[Timefortruth]

17. I need to watch more TV.

I miss all the good stuff.

Tweedy interviewed Ron about the Reagan movie and asked Ron, "I guess this is what liberals have to do now." or something like that.

Ron answered, "This has nothing to do with liberals, liberals are smart and if the movie were aired could see how silly it is."

Tweedy fell off his chair.

Disclaimer: Dialog reproduced from three week old memory.

[Unknown Known]

21. Ron knows who really was behind his Dad's assassination attempt

John Hinkley, Jr's Dad's best bud - George HW Bush!

The Reagans hate the bushes - always have and always will. Nancy talks about it quite blatantly in the Kitty Kelley book.

[proud patriot]

28. My republican Grandmother Loves Nancy no wonder she hates shrub

that's makes a lot more sense to me now .

[Octafish]

25. "My dad's crapped bigger ones than George Bush." — Ron Reagan Jr.

Perhaps no words can truly sum up The Little Turd from Crawford better than those, but we should try. Every day and in every way, we must.

SOURCE for quote:

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/04/14/ron_reagan/index_np.html

[proud patriot]

26. Ron Reagan Jr , is right on IMHO

He had a show back in the 80s opposite
Morton Downey , did a show about the dicriminalization
of Drugs , with doctors and law enforcement . It was
a great show .

I missed the show tonight , I hope it repeats .

[chookie]

31. The Reagans hate the Bushes

It goes back quite a ways. The Bushes regarded the Reagans kind of like hillbillies who had no right to *their* Oval Office.

The Bushistas were taking advantage of Reagan's illness and deteriorating condition, and were running all sorts of ops under his name. Nancy was on to them all the time -- and a lot of the "bitch" rap she got was for getting between the Bush Bastards and her husband and calling them on their bullshit. She was outraged that his presidency would be tarnished by the scandals they brought down on him.

Nancy hates the Bushes. Barbara was a real spiteful cat to her. She always thought GHWB was not bright, but was appalled that his dumber-than-shit no-account son got the nomination, and eventually was given the office. She regards them as radicals.

She also plenty pissed off at the way George W and the Bushistas have attempted to exploit Reagan when it suits their purposes. Ronald Reagan was the icon that Republicans had rallied around -- and now George W (and Barbara) want that role for himself.

Ron Jr is quite correct. I salute him for sticking up for his Dad and Mum AND his country in one fell swoop.

[kskiska]

41. Nancy considered herself and Ronnie Hollywood royalty

She dressed accordingly, even to the point of "borrowing" designer gowns, and looked down her nose at fat, dowdy Barbara Bush in her blue dresses and pearls. The Bushes were rarely ever invited to the White House, and probably had to use the back door when they were.

I remember how President Junior made that congratulatory phone call (on camera) to Nancy (Ronnie's birthday or some such thing). He must have been gritting his teeth, while Nancy just kept murmuring, "Oh, that's so nice…"

[Hailtothechimp]

34. It was great to see bu$h get dissed like that.

He also gets dissed on this board a lot, but what kind of an audience do we have? This is RONALD REAGAN'S SON, and if that won't get immunity from the RW attack dogs then nothing will.

For those who missed it, here's what I remember:

Reagan said he thought that bu$h bought a ranch just so he could be like his father, and that he laughs when he sees the shrub trimming hedges with a chainsaw.

He also refered to him (deliberately, IMO) as "Mr. bush" (although I had the CC on and it called him "President Bush" instead).

He referred to Grover Norquist and his ilk as the "starve the beasters" which I though had a catchy ring to it.

He also said, when asked to compare the two, that "My father was a man, and George bu$h (pause while he was thinking of how to put it) couln't carry my father's gym shoes, frankly."

Said he thinks Dean will win the Dem nomination, but that what the other candidates (and he singled out Lieberman) are doing to him is "vicious" and "beyond the pale".

Said that for bu$h to lose, he would have to "expose himself" (and then laughed and said not literally, but that that would do it too). By that he meant that bu$h doesn't do well when people disagree with him, and that a campaign or debate might bring this out fully (sounds like he means a Col. Jessup moment to me).

I have no doubt that Tom Delay and Sean Hannity and all the others who would pounce if Willie Nelson said this will just have to sit on their hands and keep their mouths shut.

Howard Dean should send this guy a thank you card or something. It beautifully encapsulated what we are all thinking about this fraud in the white house.

[CatWoman]

40. Thanks, Hail

I was going crazy trying to find the transcript.

[Hailtothechimp]

47. I'm guessing you probably won't. Not an official one, anyway. n/t

[KayLaw]

44. Col. Jessup?

I don't know what that means, but I've always thought it would be fairly easy to wear Bush down in debate or in court and make him reveal his true colors. I don't think he would hold up too well on a witness stand being badgered by a prosecutor.

[Hailtothechimp]

46. That's what happened at the end of "A Few Good Men."

Jack Nicholson's character (Col. Jessup) was a hard ass military guy who let Tom Cruise's character get inside his head until he exploded on the witness stand and revealed himself. Would that chimpy does the same before November 2.

[Generic Other]

36. Junior vs. Junior

Talk about a stark comparison! Ron seemed articulate, intelligent, informed compared to the moran in the white house.

I was struck by this figure he cited:

<snip> about the economy...the real issue...the median per capita income is $22,000 in change...official poverty line $18,000...median wage earner only 4000 over that line...<snip>

Is this an accurate figure? Is the average American worker that close to the poverty line? That's shocking. And needs to be repeated like a mantra from now until November.

[UTUSN]

37. Kick for Visibility n/t

[catzies]

51. "Junior vs. Junior" -- I LOVE IT!

This is yet another of the FANTASTIC, MUST-READ DU threads.

Big :thumbsup:

[noonwitch]

38. As much as Ron and Nancy disgusted me when they were in office...

I always appreciated the fact that they had kids who were not afraid to publicly disagree with their father the president on political issues.

[carolinayellowdog]

39. What if Nancy, Ron, and Patti all endorse Dean?

Hey,

Nancy had a great impact on the 1994 Virginia Senate race by denouncing Ollie North just as he appeared likely to unseat Chuck Robb. If she shares Ron's attitudes (and surely Patti does) wouldn't a public anti-Bush statement by all of them have a big impact?

A nice fantasy, anyhow.

CYD

[mrgorth]

43. I think

What if Nancy, Ron, and Patti all endorse Dean?

They'd mysteriously die before making it to a camera, phone or any other communications device.

[BigBigBear]

45. Correct me if I'm wrong

but wasn't Ron Jr. the one that had been long estranged from his parents, and has likewise been a famously liberal commentator?

I think the remark is terrific, but Ron Jr certainly has never been a guardian nor defender of the Reagan political legacy.

[ronnykmarshall]

50. That was Patti

Patti was outspoken about nukes and abortion rights when her dad was in office.