Why can't Osama have a trial?

[Sterling]

Just watched cross fire and Carville and Deans talking head said they thought OBL was guilty. I guess that's that?

What happened to the concept of justice in the US. Are we really that frightened. Honestly if so we are the greatest generation of cowards our country has every seen.

[stopthegop]

1. take a deep breath...

people expressing an opinion has no bearing on any legal proceedings...'innocent until proven guilty' is a legal fiction..a way to keep things fair...it does'nt mean people have to pretend not to think someone is guilty...it's just talk

[DuctapeFatwa]

2. bush decreed "no need for evidence, we know he's guilty"

thus doing more and irreparable damage to the nation than ten thousand airplanes.

What once was considered a "right" such as a trial, presumption of innocence, to name a few, the regime has decreed are now "privileges," as Rumsfeld mentioned when speaking of the "privileges" of the Geneva convention, and as the disappeared have discovered they are not granted.

[kanrok]

6. Did Bush really say that?

Please provude a link.

[DuctapeFatwa]

12. He said it live on CNN in September 2001, I saw it

I don't have a link, but I'm sure there is one somewhere, CNN will have it in their archives. They have made the decision not to replay it.

[spindoctor]

3. Isn't that pretty much the thesis behind "Bowling for Columbine"...

...and the book Culture of Fear (I believe) that it was based on.

And yes, I believe that many in this country are cowards in denial. That's why super heroes, or any larger than life figure (Rambo, Terminator) are so popular. They represent who we would like to be. I'm sure there are some fitting psychological terms for it all.

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[spindoctor]

7. Salam aleikum

I don't remember how many muslims we have in the US, but I don't think this is the Muslim World. Regardless, my brain is filthy as ever.

Please remind me, where in that infamous video Mr. Bin Laden confesses to being the mastermind behind the 9/11 attack? Exact phrasing please.

[htuttle]

10. That's not the point

Even people who confess to the police get a trial. The videos he released were far short of a signed police confession. In fact, given that I don't speak Arabic, I'm not entirely sure what he actually said. I've seen a number of translations of them, and it's only in the translation presented on US television that he comes close to 'confessing'.

Guilty or innocent, he deserves a trial. This is still America, goddamnit!

After the Bush administration pinned 9/11 on Al Queda/bin Laden, Powell came out and told the entire frickin planet that the administration would provide full evidence proving his responsibility.

We've seen none of it. Undoubtedly, because it doesn't exist, just like Iraq's WMD's, the Hussein/Al Queda connection, and our economic recovery.

Try it another way: If we want the rest of the world, even the 'Muslim world', to accept our judgement, it needs to be arrived at in a fair manner.

If Göring and Hess deserved a trial at Nuremburg, then bin Laden deserves a trial too.

[T Roosevelt]

5. Taken out of context

that's why there was a recent Dean-bash on his Osama comments. What he said was as President he would have to defend the process of the rule of law, even though Dean personally thought he was guilty.

AP Interview: Dean says Osama deserves death, beef farmers need aid

[Superfly]

8. Because he hasn't been caught yet?

:shrug:

[radwriter0555]

9. He's been dead for two years. You gonna try a dried up, rotted old

dessicated corpse?

It's only a value to the bush regime to pretend obl is alive.

We have more power by not repeating their lies and recouncing them.

[tom_paine]

11. The concept of Justice is very warped in Imperial Amerika

People who care nothing for justice for others, such as a growing majority of Imperial Amerikan Subjects, are incapable of understanding Justice or egtting it for themselves.

When the last vestiges of the Old Republic have finally been swept away some decades from now, the descendants of todays Imperial Amerikan Subjecst will wonder just how they got there and will look back with fury at the fools who made it possible.

Anyway, if Osama should be caught, he could finger almost the entire Bushevik crew.

[Sterling]

13. Yes I think Osama on trial is bad for Bush

So why are Dems going along with the spin?

[Fescue4u]

14. Who says he cant?

Lets catch the fugger first.

trying him now would just be an exercise in politics (shhh, don't give Bush ideas)