In god YOU trust!

[CalebHayes]

An e-mail from my grandmother...

> Postal guidelines, not God.
> ..
> Origins: In 2002, Frank P. Williamson, a retired chemical engineer,
> spent $3,000 to purchase 300 16-by-20-inch framed posters displaying
> the
motto "In God We Trust" in large white letters over the red,
> white, and
blue colors of the American flag. Mr. Williamson donated
> the posters for
display in public buildings (city halls, schools,
> libraries, police
stations, and post offices) throughout Montgomery
> County, Texas, saying:
"After the terrorist attacks on 9/11, I thought
> it would be good to
promote our national motto. I know that the only
> reason we've been
successful in the past is that our forefathers put
> their trust in God
way back."
> ..
> In November 2002, a United States Postal Service (USPS) supervisor
> ordered the removal of these posters from the lobbies of
> government-owned post offices in several Montgomery county towns
> (including Montgomery, Dobbin, and Willis) because they "did not fit
> within postal guidelines," citing a USPS regulation prohibiting the
> "depositing or posting of handbills, flyers, pamphlets, signs,
> posters,
placards, or other literature (except official postal and
> other
> governmental notices and announcements) in interior public areas on
> postal premises." (A small post office north of Houston was allowed to
> keep its poster on display after a supervisor determined that the
> office
was a privately-run contract facility and was therefore not
> subject to
the same "facility standards" as government-owned post
> offices.)
> More: http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/motto.htm
> ..
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kay Marcos
> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 7:15 PM
> Subject: WRITE ON THE BACK OF YOUR ENVELOPES
> WRITE IT ON THE BACK OF YOUR ENVELOPES
> ..
> You may have heard in the news that a couple of Post Offices in
> Texas have been forced to take down small posters that say "IN GOD WE
> TRUST."
> The law, they say, is being violated. It is something silly
> about electioneering posters (is God running for office)
> ..
> Anyway, I heard proposed on a radio station show, that we all
> write "IN GOD WE 'TRUST" on the back of all our mail. After all, that
> is our national motto, and it's on all the money we use to buy those
> stamps. I think it is a wonderful idea.
> ..
> We must take back our nation from all the people who think that
> anything
that offends them should be removed.
> ..
> If you like this idea, please pass it on and DO IT. The idea
> of writing or stamping "IN GOD WE TRUST" on our envelopes sounds good
> to me. I'M HAVING MY STAMP MADE TODAY!
> It has been reported that 86% of Americans believe in God.
> ..
> Therefore, I have a very hard time understanding why there is such a
> mess about having "In God We Trust"on our money and having God in the
> pledge of Allegiance.
> ..
> Could it be that we just need to take action and tell the 14% to sit
> down and shut up?
> If you agree, pass this on, if not delete


My response...

Personally, I am not a big fan of the motto "In god we trust". I think it
violates the Constitution. It violates the separation of church and
state. Why can't it be "In Allah we trust" or "In Buddha we trust"?

I also think that you have the right to put whatever you want on your
envelopes. I put these on mine

http://www.angelfire.com/tx2/rforgy/SoldiersDiedImpeach.html

I don't think that either motto belongs in city halls, schools, libraries,
police stations, and post offices.

Love you,

Caleb PS http://bushflash.com/faith.html


:evilgrin:

[arcane1]

1. I miss the REAL US motto...

more than ever :evilfrown:

e pluribus unum

[Bake]

9. Out of many, one

I miss that too. Seems that these days, thanks to hate radio, we're more "many" than "one."

Bake

[Dogmudgeon]

2. Who do you trust?

I like "In BOB We Trust."

Maybe a stamp with that motto and a friendly Dobbshead could be used as a countervaling tactic.

--bkl
You'll PAY to Know What You Really Think

[Walt Starr]

3. How 'bout "In HANK We Trust, or HANK will kick your ass"

I'll take my weiners chopped up in the middle of a big pile of saurkraut with mustard.

http://www.jhuger.com/kisshank.mv

[bryant69]

4. Not that I don't see your point

But this is an issue that has the a nice combination of points.

1). It doesn't really matter that much (not compared to, say, President Bush's military plans, or the continued sending of our jobs over seas).

2). It will hurt the Democratic party to fight this vigorously.

So maybe this isn't where I'm going to focus my efforts.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[CalebHayes]

5. Its our national motto and it is a big deal...

I do understand that the Democrats can't fight it right now.

Caleb

[bryant69]

8. Maybe you'd like the chance

to explain it's importance to a father who just got laid off because of the Bush economy, or a soldier stuck in Iraq due to the Bush Foreign policy.

People matter to me a lot more than mottos.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[LiberalFighter]

12. It wasn't in the beginning

"I know that the only reason we've been successful in the past is that our forefathers put their trust in God way back." Apparently this guy didn't attend his history class in school.


They want to believe that the founding fathers were believers specifically in Christianity but that is not true. They want to believe that the founding fathers created this nation because of Christianity but that is not true.

[truthspeaker]

6. I like the idea of writing it on envelopes

YOU write it YOURSELF on YOUR envelopes, instead of trying to post it in OTHER PEOPLE'S BUILDINGS.

[CalebHayes]

7. no kidding

[maxsolomon]

10. novus ordo seclorum

<new world order> THAT is our motto too.

in god we trust is 50 years old, you dolts.

[beyurslf]

11. They can write whatever they want on their envelopes.

Does this mean they won't be knocking on my door now?

(Has anyone ever noticed it is the Christians that go out to recruit and yet they accuse everyone else of it? Ever had a gay knock on your door to convert you? An atheist? A muslim? Right.)