Have Democrats been driven 'bonkers' by Bush's* "Success"?

[Q]

- So says Max Boot of the Neocon Council on Foreign Relations on CSPAN this morning.

- This begs the question: are we 'bonkers' because of Bush's* 'success' or simply pissed that he and others like him are rewriting history to make Bush* appear more successful than he really is?

- Well?

[BlueEyedSon]

1. Max Boot is a doody head.

[izzie]

11. He does speak well but does not say a thing.

So half the voters in the US think Bush did well, and the rest think he has done bad along with the rest of the world. Wonder who is right?

[NewJeffCT]

21. This was the guy

That wrote that Iraq is a much better situation than Vietnam because we've only lost (at the time) 250 soldiers, while we lost 58,000 in Vietnam. He conveniently left out the fact that we lost nobody the first 18 months we were in Vietnam and that the 58,000 was over 10 years, not 6 months.

[democratreformed]

2. It drives me bonkers

because I just can't understand their point of view. I see no success - only failure. But, there are some people who actually BELIEVE that he has done a good job and that he is a good president.

[Punkingal]

3. I'm not bonkers....

just damn sick of Bush. Are you bonkers?

[Q]

4. Mr. Boot is also angry that callers continue to call Bush* a traitor...

...and object to his foreign and domestic policy. He says that if 'Dean can't control his anger' then he'll go down as another McGovern'.

- We see the Republican/Neocon talking points in play every morning on CSPAN's Washington Journal. Don't like Bush* or his policies? According to Mr. Boot you're either angry or 'bonkers'.

[izzie]

14. Why didn't they put on Rush and we could have had a good laugh,

This guy Boot, has learned a good talk, but I do not think he thinks.

[CatWoman]

5. I'm glad I clicked on this before posting

I was about to post a thread about this guy.

What a swarmy POS. A real piece of work.

I'm glad someone called in and asked him to stop calling everyone who disagrees with him a "leftist".

[Q]

He's your typical Neocon thinktank talking head...

...sent out to convince the masses not to believe their own eyes.

- It's amazing...CSPAN has had every Neocon they could find on their network in the past week. I can't believe they're actually providing a platform for these neofascists to give their policies credibility.

[Skidmore]

13. ...And not allowing someone one to rebut their crap. nt

[LatteLib]

19. After that caller called in with his request

He started referring to people that disagree with him as Democrats. Another caller threw him off his game when he asked him if he had served in the military. Just another chickenhawk with a fast talk with little to no substance.
And this last caller that called in is sitting in her chair with her 5 bucks in hand doing nothing. Hypocrites.

[Skidmore]

6. I'm pissed because he's destroying my country

domestically and internationally. I'm pissed because he doesn't give a rat's patootie about our young men's lives and is willing to fritter them away to strut and puff. I'm pissed because he doesn't give a rat's patootie about our elderly, disabled, or our children. He panders and simps and sells out our nation's treasures to petty greedy men without requiring citizenship from them. His policies and the people he surrounds himself with reflect that disdain for the common person.

[liberalnurse]

7. The reported success of the pResident

is 90% smoke and mirrors. Media promotes it and big business is selling it to the media...media has sold out and we viewers or the American viewers, not all, have chosen to accept it instead of taking responsibility.

*bush and company are having a cake walk.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

8. success?

Biggest attack on America on his watch. Bungled war in Afghanistan. Bungled war in Iraq. Said we were going to war in Iraq for WMD's, all we've gotten so far is a hobo with a few cavities. Dropping dollar, 4 trillion-eleventy-billion dollar deficit.

I don't see any clear successes. Then again, i haven't been watching that much TV lately.

[loudnclear]

9. No, but Bush's "failures" sure drive me nuts!

Please don't fall victim to the necon double-speak. Bush has many more failures than successes and Iraq is one of them

[JHB]

10. Rhetorical questions are not begged

The question answers itself.

[Q]

12. Then I should 'beg' your pardon....

- But don't get bogged down in rhetorical questions. Max Boot represents the type of danger America faces as we debate the 'Bush* Doctrine' of 'preventative war'.

[drb]

15. Which success is that?

Getting brave American servicemen and women killed for no reason?

Bankrupting the economy?

Making food regulations so lax that we'll all be dying of Mad Cow 20 years from now?

Spending 200 billion dollars to catch Saddam?

Finding all those weapons of mass destruction?

...just looking for a little clarification here, Max baby...

[CatWoman]

18. A woman just called in

and gave several examples of *'s "successes", and called him evil.

Boot turns it around to say people do the debate a "disservice" by proclaiming * evil.

Evil should be reserved for Kim Jong Il, etc.

What a dick.

[for_al]

23. Listen to your language,

this is all open to the public to read, and post. When you talk this way, you just sway the middle ground away from the Democrats because you all sound so unreasonable.

[Skittles]

27. UNREASONABLE ????????

HAVE YOU LISTENED TO CONSERVATIVE HATE RADIO RECENTLY? ACCORDIN TO THEM I AM A TRAITOR WHO LOVES SADDAM.

[CatWoman]

28. *ahem*

1. Who the fuck are you to tell me how to converse?

2. I see you're new here. Welcome to DU. At least have the class to try to build relationships before tearing into people. Are you the internet language police?

3. I have not broken any rules by using this language. And if I did, I only answer to the owner of this site.

4. I understand the press is trying to label Democrats as "the potty mouth party". If profanity is good enough for * to use, why not me?

5. Who the fuck are you to tell me how to converse?

[mmm]

31. thank you

that brought a smile to the thread

[Skittles]

38. YOU TELL HIM, CATWOMAN

I'm sick of these people defining PATRIOTISM for me and NOW they're trying to TELL ME HOW TO SPEAK? Well, NO, F*** NO, I AM NOT TAKING IT.

[imax2268]

16. What success...?

n/t

[PaDUer]

42. Exactly...

what success? Guess they meant all the criminal things they've done.

[BeatleBoot]

17. 3 Million Jobs Lost

Quite a success.

It makes me bonkers.

[KG]

20. any more chimpy successes and the US will be a 3rd world country.

:eyes:

[PSR40004]

22. I hate to say it but...

I think many are driven by a hate that knows few equals, take a look at some of the things attributed to bushlite on this site alone (the power to cause earth quakes, the support for Olsama and sadam, etc...).

[for_al]

25. I agree.

Many appear so fanatical in their hatred that reasonable people are not going to follow.

[CatWoman]

29. Yeah, talk about fanatics

:eyes:

[niyad]

30. unless, and until, you tell the neo-cons and rw's and the endless stream

of clinton-bashers/haters to watch their language and stop being hateful, you have absolutely NO grounds for telling anyone on this board how they may speak.

if it offends you, you are free to go where your selectively delicate sensibilities will not be offended.

[Q]

34. Yeah...I bet you 'hate to say it'...

...without considering all the facts. But as Reagan said, "facts are stupid things".

[gulliver]

24. Bush is just a liar, but lying pays.

He gets what he wants by lying, arm twisting, revenge against adversaries. That is not success by any decent interpretation.

[LincolnMcGrath]

26. Another Lying Liar

Telling the lies Neos tell. I caught the end where he said " * and his administration never said imminent threat"! For that lump of a host to sit there and not call him on it, shows me c-span has been driven to new lows, for me anywho!

[ProfessorGAC]

32. Max Needs To Define "Success"

I might be bonkers that the FAILURES are underreported and underdiscussed.

But, i'm not bonkers over his successes, because i haven't found any of note.
The Professor

[joanski01]

33. That guy, Max Boot,

scared the living shit out of me. He is totally insane. Now I think I understand what PNAC is all about. They think that it is their job to police the world and get rid of the evildoers. Boot actually said that if they didn't do it, then who would? The guy is a chickenhawk and scared. We have to get them before they get us, he said.

Boot said that bush*, Rummy, Cheney, Powell were not neocons, and he wished that they would listen to the neocons more than they do. (Again, this guy is insane and scary).

Of all the callers, I believe only two supported him. None of the people who sent e-mails supported him. And there must not have been any either, or I'm sure that woman would have read them.

I heard him bash Howard Dean at least three times. He said 60% of the people support bush*, and only 20% support Dean.

[Q]

41. And all the time pretending that he didn't have a partisan agenda...

- The Neocons feign non-partisanship...but their rants against Democrats and Democracy expose them every time.

[cyclezealot]

35. Bush drives me bonkers because he is an idiot.

His mannerisms, his successes have been the return of hurrendous budget deficits, financial attacks on social security, perpetual war. Success..? I don't see it.. Are people that stupid. Joblessness.

[otohara]

36. Ignoring The Long List of Failures Is Easy

http://www.theatlantic.com/unbound/polipro/pp2003-09-24.htm

[Ksec]

37. I saw him and it was funny

watching this clown who has never touched a rifle or felt a bullet wizz past him acting like a expert on military.

People like him are to be pitied and put on the fringe, instead theyre in the White House. No wonder the world is hating us now. Imagine tuning into this and hearing him say we need a bigger military because of all the danger out there. Hes in a time warp and believes the Soviets still run.

[Ksec]

39. and

Fighting terror like AlQaeda requires a whole different approach . No giant military machine can be effective. Instead we need an elite force to get in and out of situations quietly. This moron thinks we need more Army batallions that are ineffective in terror situations

[Kazak]

40. This kind of success...

is gonna do us in.

[oc2002]

43. Max Boots, a great spokesman or neo-con-artist,

I heard that show, one entire hour of Mr Boots diatribe, and dribble of how great the neo-conservative agenda has been in promoting US security and expanding democracy around the world.......

Almost all the callers where extremely anti-neocon and nobody else seemed neo-conned by his performance, there was even one caller that had her son shipped out to Iraq that still does not have the bullet proof vest or right equipment.

I was very disappointed with Cspan, in one entire hour, there where less the a dozen callers allowed to ask a question, most of which Boots arrogantly ignored or dismissed as unsuitable of his time to even reply....what…. an… ass…..

Overall, if anyone listened to that show to learn about neo-con, they got little. Also, I do not think it convinced anyone well educated, or anyone that has been following events that the neo-cons are making Americans safer by their misleading statements, lies and distortions to fit their narrow ideology of ‘might makes right’.

[Upfront]

44. What Success?

He got selected by a 5to 4 vote of the court, that is it as I see it.

[rocktivity]

45. Yawn--it's the latest Bush Regime talking point du jour

Democrats are the "angry/hateful/crazy" party. It's his failures that are drivig us bonkers, and the populace is pretty much evenly split on how successful he's been. And why shouldn't ANYONE be angry about history being rewritten for political aggrandizement?

rocknation

[joanski01]

46. AND, Mr. Max Boot

said that we didn't need the Draft. Anyway, I still think he's nuts and he really believes in what he is saying.

[CatWoman]

47. I'm watching the replay right now

he is one scary dude...............

[candy331]

48. This man represents

an internal threat to this nation. I put him on the list with Timothy McVeigh or maybe higher. It is too bad that the nation has been on constant fear alert of outside terrorists when radical hate groups in this country are ignored and who knows what they are up to. Why does C-span keep giving these people a platform to speak from?

[dae]

49. WTF is his definition of success???