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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 09:01 AM
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Why is our government and the USA media ignoring home grown terrorists?
http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/1229/p02s01-usju.html

The terror threat at home, often overlooked

As the media focus on international terror, a Texan pleads guilty to possessing a weapon of mass destruction.


By Kris Axtman | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

HOUSTON – It began as a misdelivered envelope and developed into the most extensive domestic terrorism investigation since the Oklahoma City bombing.

Last month, an east Texas man pleaded guilty to possession of a weapon of mass destruction. Inside the home and storage facilities of William Krar, investigators found a sodium-cyanide bomb capable of killing thousands, more than a hundred explosives, half a million rounds of ammunition, dozens of illegal weapons, and a mound of white-supremacist and antigovernment literature.

"Without question, it ranks at the very top of all domestic terrorist arrests in the past 20 years in terms of the lethality of the arsenal," says Daniel Levitas, author of "The Terrorist Next Door: The Militia Movement and the Radical Right."

But outside Tyler, Texas, the case is almost unknown. In the past nine months, there have been two government press releases and a handful of local stories, but no press conference and no coverage in the national newspapers.

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 09:03 AM
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1. This seems a bit more important that Kobe, Laci, and Michael Jackson
What do you think?

Don

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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 02:35 PM
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28. I've never understood why anti-abortionist aren't considered
domestic terrorists. They've blown clinics up, set fires and assassinated doctors, sounds like terrorism to me. But again it's the white christian republican thing. There was a case of a mother of two setting fire to a clinic when I lived in LA. Her actions damaged hundreds of thousands of dollars to medical equipment and the building, she got two years probation.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 09:04 AM
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2. Also read
"A Force Upon the Plain" by Stern.

Delves into this matter as well.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 09:06 AM
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3. Because they're stupid?
They ignored OBL as well until he came knocking on their front door.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 09:07 AM
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4. The Left Wing Media in action!
Boy, are they ever biased.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 09:16 AM
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5. amazing
this is not headline news??

"Without question, it ranks at the very top of all domestic terrorist arrests in the past 20 years in terms of the lethality of the arsenal,"

the first I've heard of it. this is an important story, thanks.

:shrug:
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 09:37 AM
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6. Homegrown terror seems to be....
....the hit squads of the misruling class in Texas--and Washington!
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dodgerartful Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 09:58 AM
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7. The fact that there are a few "homegrown
terrorists" being overlooked is just fine thank you very much. There are those among the people who see violence as the only way to affect change. Hats off to them.....
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 09:58 AM
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8. Why did this scumbag get a lawyer and a trial while Padilla got the brig?
That is the question here. My guess is that this fellow in Texas had a light complexion, while Padilla was on the brown side. Can't think of no other reason.

Don

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picus9 Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 10:03 AM
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9. There are homegrown terrorists on the Left too.
Weathermen, and certain elements of the Black Panthers as well. Not to mention various anarchy groups
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 10:11 AM
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10. Give me some examples of the terrorism these groups have caused...
...during the last 30 years. And Republican Timothy McVeigh was not affiliated with any of these groups. But he was affiliated with the Republican party and the NRA.

Don

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 12:20 PM
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22. Have you thought of any yet picus9? No? Didn't think you would
Kind of blows your theory all to hell. Don't it?

Don

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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 10:16 AM
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13. "were" not "are"
Weathermen and Black Panthers has long since been eliminated by the police - though I would disagree with you on the Black Panthers, while prone to violence, there were not a terrorist organization. They did arm themselves in "self defense", a serious mistake, and were generally not the nicest people around, however they did not commit acts of violence against civilians to spread fear and gain political power.

I know of no domestic leftist groups whose aim is mass murder of civilians. Radical animal rights and environmentalists tend to property damage, not murder.

I mean if you want to go way back, radical trade unionists did commit "acts of terror", however we need to go back almost 80 years for this (e.g., plot to blow up the Los Angeles Times building).
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 11:34 AM
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19. And point out where their fortified bases are
bases of far RW extremists are a dime a dozen.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 10:12 AM
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11. They've forgotten registered Republican Tim McVeigh
This would seem to be another major Bush vulnerability. The Republican parties demagogy against the government, the NRA's characterization of police as jackbooted thugs,... Republicans would not be in power without such poisonous lies from their irresponsible, brazenly lying leaders.

Republicans need to wake up and smell the bacon. They are being lead by lying cretins who don't care how many terrorists they create.
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PSR40004 Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 10:16 AM
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12. If they're over looking it how did they arrest him..
I don't see how you can say this story proves the gov't is ignoring home grown terrorist, after all they arrested him...

Now does the media ignore it? I hadn't heard about it.

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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 10:21 AM
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14. Um. Bush never talks about them.
Edited on Mon Dec-29-03 10:25 AM by gulliver
And since they are mostly conservative leaning that's no surprise.

When is the last time Bush said that we need to secure America from white separatists? He won't do it. It would cost him the job he stole. He needs their votes. They are part of his base.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 10:24 AM
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15. I guess you forgot when Ashcroft needed to have a special news...
...conference from Russia during the middle of the night there to announce the arrest of Jose Padilla a year and a half ago? Do you remember seeing any Ashcroft news conference about this guy? I don't. Why is that?

Don

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artr2 Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 10:32 AM
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16. They vote Repukkk
nt
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 10:34 AM
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17. Ding, ding, ding. Give that man a cupie doll for telling the truth n/t
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 10:46 AM
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18. Isn't it also possible...
that Dubya also thinks that if he can't steal another election, these people will be the ones to start the riots if a Democrat wins? Maybe he thinks of them as his private army, ready to cause bloodshed and chaos here at home. They are extremist right-wing groups; the very ones who have tasted the blood that the rest of us have been bleeding due to the neocons.

That's how bad things have gotten, that I suspect what used to be my government would stoop to counting on extremist groups like this to keep them in power.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 11:43 AM
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20. Give that boy a prize!
When martial law is declared, the Brownshirts will not be disarmed, they'll be deputized.

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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 11:48 AM
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21. US Media Is So Pathetic
so Michael Jackson..a PA system for Massah Bush
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 02:04 PM
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23. kick
:kick:
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 02:09 PM
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24. because they're white Christians?
or, white Americans anyway

"Tim McVeigh? Oh, he was just a sweet boy who was misled"

"Osama bin Laden?? SLAY THE EVILDOER!! MY GOD AND MY COUNTRY!! RAH! RAH! RAH!"
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 02:21 PM
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26. In a letter to the Calgary Sun
An American called McVeigh a "misguided patriot" and blamed OKC on the "strident Liberal agenda" that was sure to produce such "resistance" to the "tyrannical" policies of the Government...
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 02:28 PM
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27. Bingo!
It is sickening to me that this discrimination has been allowed to exist. It's been going on for decades, this anti-Arabic, anti-Muslim campaign of the media and it started under Reagan. There exists good and bad in all societies, cultures, religions etc. In the past twenty years or so, virtually all the stories pertaining to Arabic and Muslim people have been negative with very few positive stories making it into our media. I believe the multitude fail to comprehend this factor.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 03:17 PM
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29. if it's true that the American "multitude" backed the invasion of Iraq
Edited on Mon Dec-29-03 03:19 PM by G_j
then it follows that the multitude are racist. The acceptance of the "wars" (Afghanistan included) is most definitely racist at it's core. The recent rise of racist neo-fascism in Europe shows once again that the number one enemy to humanity is humanity.

Why oh why do humans insist on giving power to the "pig" (no offense to the four legged creature!) in their natures?
There is a choice.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 02:20 PM
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25. Because the Imperial Family does NOT implicate or investigate allies
The Anthrax Assassin and the Plame Leaker are allies in good standing of the Imperial Family, therefore they have nothing to worry about from the sham-investigations of Reichsmarschall Ashcroft.
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