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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:40 PM
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Local... Candidate Bumper Stickers seen... a big deal in a late primary
state.

First, I am in Indiana where the late primary (May) takes us out of any play. As such it is highly unusual to see active primary politicking - talking yes, activism promoting specific candidates - especially so early? Highly Unusual.

Second, I am in Indiana where on the presidential election we have no play (haven't voted for a Democrat since Lyndon Johnson.) So while folks will work for the Democrats in the general election, generally as much energy goes into local and state races as it does for the presidential race.

Third, I am in a college town - so folks here are not exactly (by a long-shot) representative of the state as a whole.

A couple of weeks ago I started noticing that I was seeing bumper stickers for a number of different democratic presidential candidates. Thus far I have seen: Dean, Kucinich (both of these groups were active early), more recently - Kerry, Edwards and Clark.

Folks on the ground are active in ways I have not seen before. I have not been involved with a particular group (far too early in the process) - but have been paying attention. I believe that a number of folks active are not traditionally active in the party. This is a very good sign. Higher urgency, greater attention, more talking one on one with others for a much longer period of time leading up to the primaries and general election. All have the potential to get more people working on intentional GOTV efforts, to pinpoint potential swing voters and get them more informed on issues, etc.

Do you notice any changes locally related to the upcoming elections compared to previous election cycles?
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:42 PM
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1. Interesting
I've seen two Kucinich stickers the past 2 days in Palm Beach County. I've only seen one other Dean sticker, along with a Kerry one.

Most of the stickers I see are Bush/Cheney from 2000. :(
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:44 PM
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2. I've seen Dean, Kucinich stickers mostly
Dean had a rally near here in late summer, the one in I believe Vienna. I saw a kid with a Dean button in school too.
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:47 PM
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6. I hadn't seen Kucinich bumper stickers before yesterday
I have this bumper sticker that reads, "There's dirt under every Bu$h". I've actually seen about a dozen of them around town. I saw that on the same car with the Kucinich sticker.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:52 PM
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10. nice shit
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:49 PM
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8. In this time I have only seen 1 'bush /cheney' (2000) decal
and that was in Indianapolis. For whatever reason, many of those seem to have disappeared....
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:56 PM
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12. To make things worse
I see a lot of JEB! stickers.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:58 PM
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13. Those would drive me (while driving) to distraction.n/t
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:44 PM
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3. i saw my first dean bumpersticker a few days ago
on the way to san francisco...
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truthseeker1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:45 PM
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4. Lots of Kucinich
Some Dean

I'm in LA - mostly driving around Hollywood, West Hollywood, Studio City, Burbank, Glendale areas.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:47 PM
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5. Lots of Dean stickers here
and to a lesser extent Kucinich and Kerry.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:51 PM
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9. I work with troubled kids
and one of them pointed out a Kucinich sticker on a Taurus the other day. I've also seen alot of Bush/Cheney 2004 stickers.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:49 PM
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7. I saw a Dean bumper sticker the other day
here in Tennessee. I think that is the first candidate bumper sticker I've ever seen before a primary, ever. I think it may also be the first Democratic candidate bumper sticker I've ever seen in this highly politically conservative area.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:55 PM
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11. Dean Bumper sticker here in Asheville, North Carolina
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newsjunkie Donating Member (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 03:07 PM
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14. I live in E Texas
and its highly Republican but I haven't seen ANY Bush stickers yet this time (only saw about five last election). But I saw a Kucinich sticker about 2 weeks before Thanksgiving at a Walmart parking lot and I was amazed. I haven't seen anyone elses but I have my car plastered with Dean for Texas stickers! Yeah!
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 03:26 PM
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15. I've not seen many, but here in Northern Virginia
the preponderence of Dem stickers that I have noted have been for Wes Clark.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 03:31 PM
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16. Ive yet to see any but then again lol I dont get around much
Sigh that damn eye of mine. I dont drive being with my age.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 03:32 PM
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17. MA- Dean. Kucinich, Clark
No Kerry! Lots of Kucinich, a fair amount of Dean and CLark
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 03:49 PM
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18. I live in Gephardt's district...
...I've seen one Geph sticker. Seen quite a few Dean, two Kucinich, one Mosley-Braun, one Bush/Cheney2004, and two Anybody Else in 2004.
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jburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 04:29 PM
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19. Yep!
"Do you notice any changes locally related to the upcoming elections compared to previous election cycles?"

I'm in Dallas, and it seemed like Dean lived in Texas half of the summer.

Dallas rally (thousands at city hall plaza in Texas summer weather -- unbelievable!) Houston events, Austin, San Antonio, etc. This is in addition to the more private fundraising events. All of this over a year before the general election in a state no Dem has a chance of winning in 2004.

Of course, other candidates (Kerry comes to mind) have been here too, I just don't keep track of them as much.

In past cycles, Dem prez candidates would usually make an obligatory appearance in Austin, plus a fundraiser in Dallas and Houston. That was it.

Oh yeah, there aren't NEARLY as many Bush stickers on cars this year as there were for the 2000 cycle.


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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 04:32 PM
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20. I have seen Dean bumper stickers here
in Wichita (KS) but no one else yet.
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