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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 12:37 AM
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Leave No Cannon Fodder Behind -- the real name of that DRAFT bill
The hidden clause in Leave No Child Behind! No wonder Bush didn't bother to fund it, he only cared about getting the names of the students! (Mentions my DRAFT threads too!)

http://www.antiwar.com/bock/b120203.html (read down)

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Hidden deep in the vaunted "No Child Left Behind" act which substantially increased the federal government's power and control over most aspects of the educational system (another Constructive Republican Alternative Proposal, no doubt), is Section 9528, which states in part:

"…each educational agency receiving assistance under this Act shall provide, on a request made by military recruiters or an institution of higher education, access to secondary school students' names, addresses, and telephone listings." That act does include a provision to the effect that a student or parent may request that the student's name not be released without prior parental approval, but notification to parents of this right is spotty or buried in acres of fine print. So military recruiters are going after high school students fairly aggressively.

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Bush '04 = DRAFT '05
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wingnut Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 12:47 AM
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1. Forget this
There is an ACTUAL draft bill before Congress, courtesy of Chuck Rangel.

http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2003/01/3692.shtml

There is a companion bill in the senate, by another Dem who's name escapes me.

WTF are they thinking?
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 12:58 AM
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3. The Rangel bill conscripts women and the GOP hates it. It will never pass
but the SSS is reducing activation time from 8 months to 75 days with live exercises of the lottery and the exam and induction process:

http://www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html

June 15, 2005 could be the first lottery of 20 year-olds, nurses, doctors and computer specialists, linquists and engineers.

That IS in the works and coming to a home near you if Bush is re-elected.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:30 PM
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13. Didn't Rangel also want to eliminate the "don't ask don't tell"
policy. I may be remembering this wrong, but I thought he wants gays to be openly admitted into the military.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:02 AM
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4. What they were thinking
was to goad the American public into waking up regarding what the Bush foriegn policy was really going to cost.

The idea that our volunteer army and ready reserve is going to be sufficient to the needs of the neocon agenda is a fiction. A draft will become necessary when we are so overcommitted and overextended that no concieveable volunteer force will suffice.

The Rangel bill does not allow for any deferments, as far as I understand it, except for some medical conditions. Everyone between 18 and 25 would be vulnerable and the rich would be just as likely to serve as the poor. It is a club to beat Bush with and nothing more.

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wingnut Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:08 AM
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5. So he is willing to support involuntary servitude
as long as it gives him a stick to beat bush with.

I think it's more of a stick to beat US with, if the repugs want to make it an issue.

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hellhathnofury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 03:48 AM
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7. Nah, I wouldn't worry about it turning on us.
Rangel and Hollings(I think) know what theyre doing with these bills. It's shock effect and I doubt either ever came close to getting through committee.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 03:57 AM
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8. The Repugs have the PNAC albatross to deal with. Wolfowitz, Cheney
and the boys have designs on further conquests, but alas, because of Chimpy's screwed up notion of diplomacy, they can no longer count on troops from the UN and NATO.

Plan B. the draft. PNAC requires armies of occupation.

www.newamericancentury.org
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 12:54 AM
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2. An "everybody serves" policy would cost Dumbya the election
-snip-

Conscription might make such aggressive recruitment unnecessary – or plant the seeds for a future rebellion against conscription. It is worth noting that active college campus protests against the Vietnam war came to a virtual end when the draft was repealed back in 1973. It is hardly a denigrating comment to note that college students facing imminent conscription to fight and die for Uncle Sam tend to be more activist than those for whom the fighting is either something seen on television or something done by kids who couldn't or didn't get into college.

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The Undertaker Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:43 AM
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6. Bush can kiss my ass...
I am NOT fighting for him and neither is anyone else in my family. If he wants to fight so much, he can go. I'm not stopping him.
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put out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 06:17 AM
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9. I need to educate myself.
There is some sort of plan for conscripting health care workers, physicians under the age 50 and others under the age 45. No lengthy training needed, you see. Is this still in the works, or was it a bad dream?

Maybe my child and I can go off to fight war together, hand in hand.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 07:15 AM
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10. It is real....DWW posted that information
very recently. Perhaps DWW could post it again?
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put out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 09:49 AM
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11. You are correct, and I didn't read the posts carefully.
Insufficient caffeine. I am now wired.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:16 PM
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12. Sorry y'all. Had to do other things
Here is the Special Skills Draft info


http://www.sss.gov/PDFs/NovDec2003-Register.pdf (Go to p. 6)

They are gearing up the Special Skills DRAFT for 2005! No deferments allowed, men and women ages 20-44, Computer experts and LINGUISTS and engineers first.

Draft Board Recruitment Ad Back Up--With 2 New Sentences Saying There is NO Connection to Iraq. And this time It's on the SSS.gov Home Page!

http://www.sss.gov

Selective Service continues to invite interested citizens to volunteer for service on its local boards that would decide claims from men if a draft were reestablished. This invitation for board members has been ongoing over the past 23 years, although there has not been a military draft in over 30 years. There is NO connection between this ongoing, routine public outreach to compensate for natural board attrition and current international events. Both the President and the Secretary of Defense have stated on several occasions that a draft is not needed for the war on terrorism, including Iraq. People seeking further information about Selective Service's standby boards or application should consult "Fast Facts" on this site.

IN ADDITION:

George W. Bush is moving to re-activate the DRAFT and have the first Lottery drawing of 20-year old men, as well as doctors, nurses, computer specialists, linguists and engineers by June 15, 2005, AFTER the 2004 election. Please help get the word out. They are soon going to have a Special Skills draft as well, meaning they can draft anyone up to age 45, if the Pentagon says they have a shortage in that area. Arab linguists will be inducted first, then many others. Lewis Brodsky himself said this was a priority. As it is, upon activation, all 3.4 million doctors and nurses under 45 will have to register with the SSS.

The official Selective Service site clearly says that $28 million is being spent next year to have the draft ready for activation within 75 days by March 31, 2005, conveniently AFTER the 2004 election. All Bush has to do is say "We are not going to Cut and Run from Iraq, but we have no more men. THe Pentagon has told me we need to activate the Selective Service System". The scrubbed Draft Board recruitment ad (the first in decades), was just the tip of the following $28 million iceberg headed for a home near you:

http://www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html

Strategic Goal 1: Increase the effectiveness and efficiency of the Manpower Delivery Systems (Projected allocation for FY 2004 – $7,942,000)

Strategic Goal 2: Improve overall Registration Compliance and Service to the Public (Projected allocation FY 2004 – $8,769,000)

Strategic Goal 3: Enhance external and internal customer service
(Projected allocation for FY 2004 – $10,624,000)

Strategic Goal 4: Enhance the system which guarantees that each conscientious objector is properly classified, placed, and monitored.(Projected allocation for FY 2004 – $955,000)

Total=$28,290,000



An annual report providing the results of the implementation of these performance
measures will be submitted by March 31, 2005. This report will address attained versus
planned levels of performance, explain unattained target levels, and identify where and
how strategies, performance goals, and performance indicators should be changed to
ensure that the SSS reaches its strategic and annual goals and objectives.

tie that paragraph to this one:

Strategic Objective 1.2: Ensure a mobilization infrastructure of 56 State Headquarters,
442 Area Offices and 1,980 Local Boards are operational within 75 days of an authorized
return to conscription.


They are reducing draft activation time to 75 days from the current 7-8 months. The first draft lottery according to this official document could be June 15, 2005.

Question: why does a dormant agancy need to be ready to answer all correspondence in 10 days?

They said "no plans" yet they are conducting nation-wide exercises far beyond what is needed for a dormant agency. This is really a plan to get the whole system ready for activation within the 75 days proscribed, although Congress must authorize the actual activation. They are trying to stop this discussion by saying "no plans", making everybody think it's off the table. They just mean Bush has "no plans" to ask Congress at this time. Yet on April 1, 2005, according to this he could ask for activation and have it in 75 days.

Also draft boards reported being "unexpectedly" asked during summer training sessions to fill the Board vacancies (salon.com from a Philly draft Board member)

Also Rumsfeld's leaked memo said "long hard slog" and "we have not made any truly bold moves yet"--and that was after Iraq and Afghanistan.

They are even making sure the Alternative Service is all exercised and ready to go within 75 days of March 31, 2005.

This is called Performance improvement but it looks exactly like a readiness action. They are bringing the whole system up to 90% + operational capability after 30 years of dormancy. Obviously, with a war on terror this could be considered prudent (although you don't need a draft to catch Osama Bin Laden and several thousand al-Queadas). Then why did they scrub the Draft Board notice? Why not come say out front we are filling the Draft Boards and gearing up the system in case the President needs it to fight the war on terror?

Congress would of course have to approve, supposedly after a Joint Session by the President where he could easily say "we are not going to cut and run" (same was said in Vietnam). By March 31, 2005, the draft may only be 75 days away.

This change the dynamics of this issue, because people will say OK, Bush is getting the first draft lottery ready by June 15, 2005 if we need it. Now do I trust him or the Democrat more to not reinstate, given Iraq and PNAC?

In additon Brodsky, the head of SSS, says a priority will be drafting Special Skills Personnel: 20 to 45 year-old computer experts, linguists (especially Islamic languages), and engineers. All 3.4 million doctors and nurses under 45 will have to register at their local Post Office in 2005 if Bush gets Congress's permission. All signs are they will ask for the draft at that earliest possible moment and will probably establish the Special Skills Personnel Delivery System (like the HCPDS) even sooner, as soon as the election is over in November, 2004, although these computer programmers and engineers would not have to register until the draft was activated. (they will check your IRS form to see your occupation and throw you in the Lottery Bowl.)

So Greetings, Generation X! Millions of you, men and women, will be forced to register for the SPECIAL SKILLS DRAFT by May 1, 2005--if George W. Bush wants your body and soul.

Bush '04 = DRAFT '05
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:55 PM
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14. You rule DWW!
Keep it up, you got "The Right Stuff".
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