Intercepted Al-Qaeda e-mails reason for Orange alert?

[Nlighten1]

So Al-Qaeda is using email to send out it's missions now? Is this something new?

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=1506&u=/afp/20031225/ts_alt_afp/us_attacks_air_france_031225174726&printer=1


In the United States, an American official speaking to AFP on condition of anonymity said the alert had been raised because of intercepted Al-Qaeda e-mails that spoke of an attack being plotted for the Christmas holiday using Air France planes. Other intelligence narrowed that to specific Air France flights, he said.

[J B]

1. So now Al Qaeda knows what can be intercepted

And surely knows how to manufacture fake threats this way.

Way to go, censors!

[Bucky]

2. Wow, I hadn't thought of that. You nailed it.

But if it was al-Qaeda disinfo, then the Bush Administration handled it prudently--check out the named flight, but alert the security apparatus to look out for coordinated attacks or any possible flexibility al-Qaeda might have in carrying out their attacks.

[DUreader]

4. LIES: A.Q. knew before 911 that email could be intercepted

many stories post 911 talked about our intel's inablity to track

AQ due to their proficiency at the use of encryption techniques

such as stegenography.

That is why they failed to 'connect the dots'

I remember because I had never heard of stegenography before.


This is another lie to cover up for the lies about the Orange Alert

[RBHam]

3. Rummy's Office Of Disinfo is up and running...

I know, I know, he released his idea for an Office Of Disinfo - where LYING to the American people would be a move to help DEFEND the...he later said he shut it down after a backlash...but did he?
Which time was he lying?

Come on...

"Al Qaide" doesn't make a move unless it's cleared somewhere in Washington.

[Racenut20]

5. Is anyone that dumb????

To think AQ would expose its plan and agents with a tracable e-mail and name the flights they were going to use ??????

[RBHam]

6. they are simply spreading fear...

I'll bite. there really is an al qaeda, sworn enemies of freedom, determined to destroy the us, israel, stray puppies and bunny rabbits. if al qaeda DID want to cause panic and fear through these hoax web sites and e-mails, why would us national security allow it? why help spread the fear? they'd be doing al qaeda's job for them!

this is a neo-con policy - use their hired black ops disinfo specialists (usually fringe right wing web sites) to spread fear and apprehension nation wide, to condition them, to slowly inculcate into the national conscience the inevitability of another attack while at the same time giving themselves cover when it does happen. As in, "We warned you!" Even though their actions (cutting aid to first responders, continued lax port security and porous security at nuke facilities...

anyway, on these matters, think "1984" by George Orwell. Osama bin Laden is Emmanuel Goldstein, (minute of hate),we have always been at war with Al Qaeda, (minute of hate), errrr, the Taliban, (minute of hate),errrr, Afghanistan, (minute of hate),errrr, Iraq, (minute of hate), errr, NEXT?

[NNN0LHI]

7. Holy shit! If this is true that means anyone who wants to terrorize the...

...USA they will never have to actually pull off an attack. They just need to send a couple of e-mails and watch us all act like scared rats in a sewer. Does everyone realize the implications of this? We are witnessing the use of terrorism at its finest. This is what happens when you declare war on an idea. We automatically lose by default due to our own ignorance.

Don

[MrPrax]

8. Well that explains the 'leak'

from a story on the LBN postings:

US in row with France over terror operation
By David Rennie in Washington
(Filed: 26/12/2003)
"American and French officials yesterday traded mutual recriminations over the failure to snare any terrorists in the security operation that grounded six Air France flights in and out of Los Angeles.

Bush administration officials expressed frustration that al-Qa'eda operatives might have escaped capture after word leaked, early this week, of American concerns about flights from France to the United States over the Christmas period."
(snipped from the Telegraph
http://tinyurl.com/2jdxu)

BUT in the Yahoo posting here-we have "American official speaking to AFP on condition of anonymity" (long form for unnamed sources) chatting about emails?

And I figure it was all those 'loose lips' talking about Orange Alerts that might have tipped them off...

Question: Does Bush* and Associates, Inc., think we are as stupid as Al-Queda or stupidier?

[RBHam]

9. as to your last question...

The 3 maxims: "You can fool some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, but you can never fool all of the people all of the time."

Of course, if you can rig the voting machines and have the media in your hip pocket, the third maxim is far more attainable.

[EDT]

10. Emails and phone calls using keywords is what I remember

After 9/11, I remember reading somewhere about intercepted emails and phone calls from suspects, but words like "girlfriend" and "big investment" were subsitituted to make the emails and calls seem innocuous.

They aren't that stupid that they're going to send plain text emails out.

That's not new either, the Japanese routinely did this keyword substitution in WW2 eventhough they were already sending out encrypted communications.

[radwriter0555]

11. Here are the emails they're talking about, nothing coded, but

allegedly direct emails...


The weekly al-Majalla said it received an e-mail from Abu Mohammed al-Ablaj, a little known al Qaeda member, saying bin Laden would release a video tape in which he affirms his group's determination to fight the United States.


"A messenger of bin Laden informed him (Ablaj) that the al Qaeda leader will appear on a televised tape after the execution of an operation which bin Laden described as back-breaking and which would change the order of things," al-Majalla said in a report in its latest edition, a copy of which was sent to Reuters.



"In the e-mail, which could not be immediately authenticated, Ablaj echoed his previous statement carried by al-Majalla in November saying the attack would take place before a Muslim feast which is celebrated on the last days of January or the first days of February.


The e-mail did not say what type of weapons would be used in the attack which Ablaj hinted would involve a series of strikes on the United States and other countries, the magazine reported. "


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=574&ncid=721&e=5&u=/nm/20031226/wl_nm/security_qaeda_magazine_dc

[TreasonousBastard]

12. One Tunisian with a pilot's license...

and a name similar to a terrorist's sent an email and started all this.

Sounds like credible evidence to me.

I feel sooooooooo safe.