Prick Cheney's lack of regard for life displayed during pheasant slaughter

[ElementaryPenguin]

Our pResident, er, "vice"-pResident is simply a disgusting, revolting, miserable excuse for a human being! Why do I feel so sure that this soulless, blood/oil thirsty bastard would be equally "entertained" if had participated in a "peasant" slaughter instead?!

:puke:

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/politics/7515641.htm

[Faygo Kid]

1. You've got that exactly right.

[Malva Zebrina]

2. Cheney , most likely, imo

came to grips with the fact that he might die suddenly one day before his time. I think this has caused him to become totally self centered, and totally distracted and disengaged from any other human being. He has lots of money, and could care less about anyone else-- it is sort of a Baccanalian orgy with this guy, who knows he could drop dead overnight. He is and has become a robot concerned only with himself , imo

[ElementaryPenguin]

10. I think you've hit the nail right on the head, M!

A more dangerous human being, we could hardly hope to find anywhere!

[beyurslf]

3. I have never understood how this is a thrill.

They have a weapon that kills faster than the speed of sound. They hide. The birds are released right into their path. Why is that fun? Any hunters here?

[toddzilla]

4. It's not hunting..

It's just killing..

i'm not really into hunting, but if it's for meat, i'm not against it. This activity bears no resemblance to hunting whatsoever.

[DBoon]

5. Sounds like the Iraq invasion.....

n/t

[msmcghee]

14. I am a bird hunter.

It is difficult to explain to a non-hunter why someone would do such a thing. I would say that both the attraction to hunting - and the revulsion to it are emotional responses.

Each person will be attracted or repulsed according to their values. And in each category some will have more reasonable, better chosen values, and some will have frivolous or poorly thought out values.

Some hunters see killing animals as a macho proof-of-manhood exercise. My experience is that those are in the minority but are more prevalent in the south, with hunters in Texas epitomizing that group. I think that's a cultural thing.

Some hunters see it as an almost mystical experience, being in touch with ancient human ways. I'm in that group. I find that hunters in the northwest across to the northern mid-west tend to share this outlook.

It is not easy. It typically takes many years to develop the necessary skills. Most hunters would never "cheat" just as a matter of respect for the process and the animals you would kill.

Of course, each hunter would fit somewhere along this spectrum but I believe most are at the more honorable end of it.

Bird farm shooting is useful for training bird dogs to point and retrieve properly and for giving kids a chance to learn the skills in a controlled environment, where you know they will get a shot or two at a real bird. At $15 or so per bird it's not something I could ever afford very much of. But I will usually try to buy 4 or 5 birds on a Saturday just before the season to get my dog and my eye back in the groove - especially with a young dog.

A huge part of bird hunting for me and most hunters is the intense relationship that you can develop with your dog, from a puppy through the seasons until they retire and die. I have pictures of every dog I've ever had as a hunting and life partner on my desk and they are each a big part of my life - bringing back vivid memories of beautiful fall days together in the field.

Wild pheasants are one of the best, cleanest, hormone-free meats that you could eat. I always clean my birds within minutes from being shot and put on ice. I save them for special occasions when good friends are over for dinner - to be savored with good wine and stories of the hunt, in honor of the birds we consume.

Farmed pheasants are not as tasty - but business people who don't have the time to spend twenty or thirty days a season in the field to bag a dozen birds or so often buy the farm experience - not just to train their dogs or kids but in lieu of the real thing. I figure that taking the life of an animal is important enough that if you don't have the time to do it right you should stay home.

I don't disparage Cheney's morals for taking this route - but thinking he can "buy" what to me is such a spiritual experience makes him even more of a reprehensible unsavory person in my mind - if that were possible.

Hope this helps.

[Bunny]

19. I think the biggest problem with Cheney is that his "hunt" was so

non-sportsmanlike. Blasting away at birds, just un-netted, at an exclusive private club seems so over the top. Training your dogs and teaching your children to hunt are not an issue, at least not to me. I got no problem with hunters running down their prey, so to speak, and only killing what they need or will reasonably use.

But Cheney's party shot at almost 500 birds in total (plus an undisclosed number of mallards), and only 70-80 were able to escape the slaughter. What the hell was the point of that, other than wanton killing? I'm not aware that there were any dogs or young 'uns in training there.

Not to gripe at you, msmcghee. Your kind of hunting is what it's supposed to be like. If you get a deer, I'd love to have some jerky!

[JHB]

24. Not a bird hunter, but related to several...

...including an uncle who raises & trains hunting beagles.

I understand your view and agree with most of it, but I DO disparage Cheney (and his morals/character or lack thereof) for taking this route: he (and the rest of his group) wasn't hunting, nor were they boning up their skills before a real deal, and the sheer excess of it (more than 40 birds/man) isn't even 'buying the experience', it's just narcissistic gluttony.

[ElementaryPenguin]

27. Agreed. This wasn't "hunting" this was paying for the right to slaughter!

And Cheney is a sick, demented old fuck!

:puke:

[mmm]

6. the lowest form of coward

plain and simple

[fishguy]

7. Hunters in PA are ticked off at Cheney

They know this was no "hunt".

[ElementaryPenguin]

8. A classic Chickenhawk "hunt"!!

What a fucking asshole that Dick is!

[ElementaryPenguin]

9. Sounds like your describing his cohort - the evil, cowardly war chimp!

Unbelievable what a bunch of low life scumbags we've got running this country!

[RockwellCity]

11. I bet I've killed over a hundred deer in the last 40 years.

My conscience is not especially heavy.

[bicentennial_baby]

12. All at once?

B/c that's really the issue

[ElementaryPenguin]

13. Thanks for protecting us from all of those ferocious deer.

I'm assuming/hoping your hunts were real - that your victims had at least a "sporting" chance to hide and escape, unlike the Dick's helpless sitting ducks.

[RockwellCity]

16. Silly to call them victims

My son and I donate what we don't eat to the Montgomery Area Food Bank, which feeds low income people.

[ElementaryPenguin]

18. You've got me there. I stand corrected if that's truly the case.

Sounds like a very noble cause.

[proud patriot]

28. I hope Cheney Donated his overkill

That which he couldn't eat .

[RebelOne]

23. To me, hunting is not a sport.

A sport is a game where each side is equally armed. But in this case, the other side (the deer) does not even know there is a game going on.

[Indiana Democrat]

26. Sitting Duck

A "Sitting Duck" is literally a sitting duck. It's a duck who's come in and landed on the water. Shooting a sitting duck is not a hard shot...I would imagine someone with little to no firearm training could make this shot a little less than half the time...Depending on distance, of course.

The same person would take down one of these "Released Pheasants" about 1 out of 1000...And it would be nothing but dumb-luck.

There is nothing unsportsman like about these kind of hunts. Expensive? Yes. And therefore not popular with those who can afford such a thing...But certainly not unsportsman like.

Personally, I stick to bashing Cheney over things like Haliburton. Not bashing him over an All-America activity like hunting.

Yes...I am a hunter, and I enjoy it very much. And I would LOVE to have the opportunity that Dickhead Cheney had...

Flame away...

[Dr. Wu]

15. I just killed a deer a few weeks ago.

And some pheasants, too.

When it comes to hunting, I guess you would have to call me pro-choice.

[newyawker99]

21. Hi Dr. Wu!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[newyawker99]

20. Hi RockwellCity!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Ilsa]

17. Where's Ted Nugent?

Why hasn't he commented on this slaughter yet?

[AlinPA]

22. I live near (30 miles) from the club where he "hunted"

All the talk - when its brought up around here is the "unsportsmenlike hunt". Example, talking to several members of a local sportsmen's club (all NRA'ers)-I'm not one- and they bash the "hunt" and the rich people at that country club in Ligonier.

[King_Crimson]

25. C'mon now....Cheney isn't a prick...

That's part of a MAN... which has nothing to do with that bloodthirsty vampire!