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messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 09:12 AM
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Nader Rejects Green Party Backing
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23298-2003Dec22.html

Ralph Nader, whose 2000 campaign many Democrats believe cost former vice president Al Gore the presidency, has decided not to run for president next year as the candidate of the Green Party but is still contemplating a presidential race as an independent, a Nader associate said yesterday.



Ross Mirkarimi, who ran Nader's presidential campaign in California, said Nader recently called him to announce his intentions and is in the process of informing national Green Party officials that he will not be their standard-bearer in 2004.

"My understanding is that, if Nader runs, he does not want to run a mediocre campaign, and he is trying to assess the political and resource variables on how he would run the most serious campaign possible to unseat George Bush,"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23298-2003Dec22.html
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 09:26 AM
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1. A holiday wish
I wish this guy would quietly go away.
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 10:37 AM
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6. Me too.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 09:29 AM
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2. Somehow, I think it was the other way around. Ralphie just preempted
a public humiliation.
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Nadienne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 09:29 AM
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3. If he could suddenly turn conservative
and split the Republican party... wouldn't that be nice?
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Bush loves Jiang Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 06:11 PM
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13. Not necessary...
I can see a strong paleoconservative candidate in 2004 really fucking Bush over. ;-)
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Iverson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 10:02 AM
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4. an end to confusion?
Hopefully, this will help to eliminate the misperception, perhaps deliberate, that the Green Party begins and ends with Ralph Nader.
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wanderingbear Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 02:55 PM
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9. I never thought that in the first place.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 06:07 PM
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12. Many do though wanderingbear
The hatred of Nader here is a spectacle to behold.Sadly,as Iverson mentioned,this spills over to the Green Party as well.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 10:06 AM
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5. i think peter camejo is running
peter camejo the green party candidate for governor from california said he will run for president on the green party side. camejo did a very good job in the debates, including the one with arnold which was shown nationwide on just about every major tv station yet still didn't do well in the elections.
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:06 PM
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7. Yes, he is the Green's man.
That is what I've read
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wanderingbear Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 03:06 PM
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11. Oh ya Him..
Sounds like a good chioce.
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ajacobson Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:36 PM
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8. Not surprising
to me, as someone who was very active in the Nader campaign in 2000. There was no national Green Party infrastructure at the time--it was all Ralph. The state parties were weak or had just gotten ballot status. Now, there is a modest national infrastructure and the state parties, while weak, have a little more experience and internal life. IMHO, Nader would not subordinate his campaign to the Green Party national leadership under any conditions. If they tried, there would be a split sooner or later.

I think the 2000 Nader campaign brought a lot of new people around. I think there should be a pressure from the left on the Democratic Party. However, in 2004 a GP Nader campaign would be a disaster, both because of the drawoff of progressive votes (and the implications of that) but also the resources it would suck from the state parties and distract from local base building. Thus I am here at DU and not "G"U.
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wanderingbear Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 02:57 PM
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10. Green Party is still running a canidate..
Nader will Disapear with out the Green Party. But the Green Party will still be here.
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