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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 06:46 PM
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Lou Dobbs Poll.....unfreep? Please.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/

Do you believe that Christmas and Santa are part of the U.S. culture and, therefore, should be preserved in schools and public places?

Right now it's at
75% Yes
25% No


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jmaier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 06:47 PM
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1. What kind of idiotic
question is this. I don't even know how to vote! :shrug:

But, I'll go do my duty.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 06:48 PM
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2. What a moronic, lame ass question!!
Christmas and Santa?

I don't know what this question means.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 06:50 PM
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3. Yeah, but how great was Nadine Strossen?
Edited on Fri Dec-19-03 06:51 PM by Robb
ACLU prez? She kicked ASS! :thumbsup:

On edit: What a worthless poll! Ms. Strossen's whole point was for the ACLU and the Supreme Court, Santa isn't exclusively a religious theme. Jesus, in a manger, is.

Once again, CNN misses/skips/distorts the point. :eyes:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 06:50 PM
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4. I have a better idea for a poll question
"When you think about it, isn't Christmas really just a pathetic joke?"

100% yes. Its not about Jesus, its not about Christianity. Its about marketing, being a good consumer, and its about conservatives treating strangers as though they were human beings for one or two weeks out of the year. Its the only time a conservative will actually do something kind for anyone else. But otherwise, Christmas is just a sham. Presents, presents, presents, lights, tree, and, oh yeah, some "Jesus" guy...


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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 06:50 PM
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5. it's a veiled "libruls attacking Christianity" question
probably somewhere there are people saying that the religious undertones of xmas are a church/state issue...


though the tree is pagan, so at least it's multi-cultural :evilgrin:
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 06:56 PM
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11. yep nt
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 06:52 PM
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6. I added my 2 cents, and it got worse...YUKKO>
That corporate criminal scorecard for tonight's show .sounds interesting.Except they will probably exclude most of them. Anyone want to watch & report?
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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 06:55 PM
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9. Lou DOBBS??
Corporate criminal????? There is not a LOUDER voice against outsourcing jobs overseas and calling out CEOs on ridiculous compensation than Lou Dobbs. You obviously don't watch the show!
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 07:19 PM
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16. Look at the site.
He was going to have a "corporate criminals scorecard" tonight. Steve Forbes to do it? I figured it would be only indicted criminals or obviously failed CEO's and execs of bankrupt companies, not the issues you're talking about. I generally like him. He does speak up sometimes. His polls are almost always worthless pieces of s***, usually slanting questions or having a hidden agenda, like here...the "Christian nation" guff.
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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 06:54 PM
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7. That's not FREEPER
That's MIDDLE AMERICA and the faster the far left realizes it the better. We aren't going to win elections taking positions against Christmas and Santa Claus. :crazy:
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 06:55 PM
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8. Great point!!....n/t
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 07:00 PM
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13. i agree
it`s a non issue with me. i have great memories of my kids and grandkid singing in the grade school programs. people should lighten up...
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TexasPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 07:23 PM
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17. yup
now if the question was to support Sinter Klass and Svarte Piet... well, that's a different story.
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 06:55 PM
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10. Im sorry but...
I dont remember the last time a Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, or anyone of any faith other then Christianity celebrating Christmas. Thats easily one of the dumbest questions I've heard in some time.

Sure, Christmas isn't REALLY about Jesus anymore. But, its still a Christian holiday.

Next topic.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 06:58 PM
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12. so? I like Christmas, Santa, and all the rest
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 07:12 PM
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14. Thats fine but...
Should it be preserved in schools and public places? Is it a part of American culture?
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 07:14 PM
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15. Yes it should
at least IMO. I see nothing wrong with it in schools. Its not hurting anyone.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 07:49 PM
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19. I beg to differ
Christianity has done a huge amount of harm to mankind. If they just told us of good things Jesus said I would say good but they practice hatred and discrimination. You want Christianity to be mixed with public school and I say it is more harmful than good. People see things differently sometimes. Most evil has been done in the name of religion and I think our kids coulkd do without it. If you wish for your kids to be indoctrinated in a religion that is fine but do it in private.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 07:25 PM
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18. Here's where it's at now...
Do you believe that Christmas and Santa are part of the U.S. culture and, therefore, should be preserved in schools and public places?

Yes 79% 1989 votes

No 21% 531 votes
Total: 2520 votes

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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 08:24 PM
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20. Um. . . Bah, humbug to you, too. Santa leave coal in your stocking?

Not enough presents under the tree with your name on them?

But seriously, at DU, people frequently point out how Jesus wasn't really born in December, and how the early Church incorporated all sort of pagan trappings into Christmas celebrations, all of which is true.

But then we get the posts complaining that Christmas is a Christian holiday and therefore shouldn't be seen in public. TILT!

If it's borrowed so much from other religions and cultures, and even been re-made in our own times, just how Christian can Christmas be?

Christmas is NOT the heart of Christianity, not Christian's most important holiday, but it's a nice holiday that carries a message of peace. The angels sang about peace on earth when Jesus was born. When he grew up, Jesus preached about peace and love. As far as I know, every religion places value on peace and love, as do most nonbelievers. So think of it as a time to honor and focus on peace and love, a holiday celebrated by millions of people who are not fundamentalists.






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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 08:48 PM
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21. Done. Long way to go!
What is that man's fixation with immigration?

Does anyone know? It seems like he's harping on it all the time.
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