Al Franken or Michael Moore

[waylon]

or, I guess, Bill Maher..



who would best represent your views, and be the most fun to run as a candidate?


Sorry, I guess I cant create a poll just yet.

[messiah]

1. Michael Moore would represent my views the best

Bill Maher second and then Franken third.

[CheshireCat]

2. Michael Moore - no contest!

[Room101]

36. Michael Moore - no contest!

He is Chomsky-light with an attitude. Al Franken is great but also a DLC member. Bill Maher is great also.

[BackDoorMan]

3. Michael Moore

[kodi]

4. franken, moore's an a$$hole

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[Bombtrack]

5. Bill Maher and Al Franken

I'd rather listen to Maher, although unlike Maher I have a good amount of faith in the democratic party, and it's where all my hope lies. I don't think the drug war is worth not alligning myself with it, like Maher seems to.

Moore is like the Rush Limbaugh of the left. Actually, he's more like the leftist parallel of Anne Coulter

[ComerPerro]

6. Im telling you, Franken.

Definately.

[buycitgo]

7. Maher's largely an ignorant, narcissistic blowhard......

he's on the right side of a few things, has said MANY times he'd LIKE to be a republican, if they'd just get back to the way they used to be.

mostly he's a libertarian.....except for views on drugs/animal abuse, he doesn't know what he's talking about, and his appearance on LKing the other night proved that in spades.

his foreign affairs/historical ignorance is laughable, demonstrated in his ludicrous statement about the US NEVER having had designs on any foreign territory, except for a place to bury our war dead.

right, Bill.

and his kissing up to the likes of Coulter, Olson, and the various IWF bimbette types is/was sickmaking.

far as the other two.....time for a drink

[Bombtrack]

8. He's not really a libertarian

He IS libertarian/liberteen on issues he's passionate about but he's not A libertarian.

I do carpentry with people who listen to a liberteen hard-right-winger on talk radio(he's a pro-choice, anti-drug-war, pro gays in the military, but he's also for a 5 percent flat tax, eliminitating all entitlements and military at the borders, and deporting all illegal immigrants)

anyway a guy called in and asked the guy about Maher calling himself a libertarian. The host said something to the effect of, "I don't claim to be the king of all libertarians or anything, but Bill Maher is not a libertarian, I know that, he's a socialist. He wants drugs legalized and he thinks calling himself a libertarian sounds cool, but he's not a libertarian"

also, read this:

http://dir.salon.com/ent/tv/feature/2001/08/01/maher/index.html

Is Bill Maher a libertarian?

His "Politically Incorrect" record shows him to be something really un-PC: A flaming liberal.

By Dann Halem
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August 01, 2001 | Perhaps the most politically incorrect thing Bill Maher could do these days is admit he's more or less a liberal.

With the White House and Congress solidly conservative and the Senate on a constant Democratic deathwatch, these are not the best of times to be teetering left of center. And so the host of ABC's "Politically Incorrect" has done a rather political thing

He's come out as a libertarian.

For Maher, this isn't a recent phenomenon. Maher had been calling himself libertarian well before Bill Clinton left for Chappaqua, N.Y. And why not? The host of the late-night political discussion program has never been above raising a few eyebrows...

[Sterling]

18. He is only liberal

If you are a right wing nut.

[Terwilliger]

32. FAR right wing nut

Bill Maher may be many things, but flaming liberal is not one of them.

Besides...just :wtf: is a flaming liberal?

[0007]

41. Bill Maher is a big sell out!

In other words he sucks -
junior scared Mr. Maher and he fell for it cuz he lost his little job
Bill Maher is a fucking bore.

Edited for mistakes I made when pissed. Bill Maher's very name pisses me, LOL!!

[West Coast Democrat]

9. Al Franken

I answered this on the duplicate thread

[Josh]

10. Al Franken -

he always manages to be correct and funny without stirring up the shitstorms that Moore does.

[Bonobo]

11. Definitely Al Franken... That guy is gold!

[Kathleen04]

12. Al Franken n/t

[Legate]

13. franken

nt

[newyawker99]

40. Hi Legate!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[KFC]

14. Franken

Actually intelligent and speaks the truth.

Moore is a blowhard that likes to embellish the facts.

[littlejoe]

15. You have got to be kidding. What have you been smoking?

[Killarney]

16. Franken n/t

[Sterling]

17. I like Moore but

Franken is the man. Bill M is just so so.

[Athletic Grrl]

19. Franken, hands down.

Anyone who can make O'Reilly look like a complete idiot is aces in my book.

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[kanrok]

21. Franken, or do you pronounce it "Fron-kin?"

I watched Young Frankenstein last night.

[ldoolin]

22. Franken

Definitely Al Franken.

But I do have to say that Michael Moore's first big movie "Roger & Me" is a must-see, I think the accusations that he plays fast and loose with the facts are just RW talking points and I don't buy them, and he'd be tons of fun to run as a candidate. Too bad he's a Green.

[GreenPartyVoter]

23. Add Huffington, Hightower, and Ives to the list

:)

[Raenelle]

24. All good, but it's Franken first, then Moore, and Maher a distant 3rd

[lancemurdoch]

25. Franken loves the DLC

Franken has described himself as a DLC Democrat. He was answering questions once and said something regarding Amy Goodman, like he was nowhere like her politically. I bought Franken's book and liked it, and like him on TV.

Moore on the other hand is from a blue collar union family and seems more focused on working class perspectives of things. I know a lot of (socially) conservative working class people who thought "Roger and Me" was great - there hasn't been a lot of coverage of the loss of American manufacturing of that type, and they're glad to see someone recognizing it. I would say I like Moore better.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

26. How bout a combo of all three?

Mix all three together, and you have SeveneightyWhoa! Booyah!

[Chomskyite]

27. Moore is farther to the Left and more toward me

in that he's not a fiscal conservative like Franken is. But I love Franken.

Why can't we have all three of them?

[durutti]

28. None of the above.

Bill Maher isn't progressive *at all*. He's expressed support for racial profiling and a gargantuan military budget, among other things.

Al Franken is a DLC Democrat (by his own admission). He's loyal to the Democratic Party, not necessarily to liberalism. Still, I like him.

Michael Moore is a sellout and a fraud. "Roger & Me" was great, and Downsize This! was reasonably good. Then it all went downhill.

[Fescue4u]

29. Running Moore, would be like the Freepers running Rush

Moore is essentially the left equivalant of Rush.

Moore would get eaten alive as his sensationism is stripped away.

[Terwilliger]

31. damn, I knew you'd get around to it

I still haven't seen where Moore is anti-gun.

[Fescue4u]

33. Actually thats a good point

I wasnt even thinking about Moores crazy gun views when answering the question.

But considering Moores anti-gun stance (or perceived if you will), would make him non-electable in the majority of states.

[Terwilliger]

37. please explain the perception

really! I'd like to hear any specific examples of his being anti-gun.

[Fescue4u]

39. I don't want to get into that now

Really.

Regardless of whether you agree or not, you have to admit that many believe that Moore is an anti-gun blowhard.

Understand that Im talking talking specifically about his views, but what most people see as his views.

[0007]

45. C'mon guy ya make a statement and then ya can't back it up, 'eh?

Goes to show you how much you know about Moore, LOL!!

[Terwilliger]

30. NOTA

let them be entertainers

[Crunchy Frog]

34. Franken

I hope he runs for Wellstone's seat in '08. They were apparently quite close.

I like Michael Moore, but I don't think he would be credible as a politician.

I don't have much respect for Maher at this point, although I used to like him.

[sasquatch]

35. Micheal Moore and Bill Maher

They best represent my views. Franken is a DLCer so he really isn't a lib he's just a moderate Dem.

[HEyHEY]

38. AL is more honest IMO

[0007]

42. Al Franken and Michael Moore in a dead heat!

[phillybri]

43. Franken

n/t

[philosophie_en_rose]

44. Franken!

Franken is honest, funny, and has no personal agenda. Not to mention that Franken is a democrat and Moore isn't. Franken mocks Ann Coulter and Moore defends her.

[AlFrankenFan]

46. Al Franken

Definitely :)

[mrgorth]

47. Franken

[jbm]

48. franken..n/t

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