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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 11:19 PM
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I could have told you that Kean would backtrack on 9/11, but...
Edited on Thu Dec-18-03 11:34 PM by TruthIsAll
I am so tired of repeating the obvious.

It was clear when Bush and Cheney forbade Daschle from fully investigating..

It was clear when Bush allocated a whopping $3 MILLION in 9/11 investigation funding to NOT find out what really happened. Compare this to the $175 BILLION we are paying in Iraq to feed his cronies.

It was clear when Bush named Kissinger as Chairman....

It was clear when Bush named Kean as Chairman....

It was clear when Bush forced Cleland to quit...

It was clear when Daschle named PNACer Kerrey as Cleland's replacement...

It was clear when Bush named Baker to defend the Saudis in the 9/11 victim's suit..

It was clear when Bush refused allow to all but a few commission members to see the missing 28 pages relating to his Aug. 6 briefing and Saudi involvement...and would only provide it in limited, redacted form, after editing, of course...

It was clear when Bush nearly self-destructed at the last press conference when asked about his pre-knowlege of 9/11 ....

It was clear when Bush claimed to have seen the first plane crash into the WTC LIVE on television...

Did anyone really believe that Republican Oilman Kean would do anything other than to continue to cover for Bush?

To Wesley Clark and Howard Dean:
It's time. Are the gloves off yet?





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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 11:25 PM
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1. Exactly
After his statement, he got a call from someone he couldn't ignore who was offering him a deal he couldn't refuse.

I wonder what they have hanging over the head of Max Cleland?
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 11:28 PM
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4. i think they realize they have to blame somebody
it just won't be the neoCONs

peace
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Mis-an-thrope1111 Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 11:27 PM
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2. I missed the update...
What happened?

this Kean guy did a 180?

any links for a poor beggarly websurfer?
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MoonAndSun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 11:27 PM
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3. I agree with you, I just knew that Kean would back off on his
statements, I'm sure he got the call from The Dick and was told if he wanted his family to stay alive then he'd better backtrack.

I want to know what Kristen Breitwiesten (spelling?) has to say about Kean's reversal of stories? I'm betting she is not very happy.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 11:30 PM
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5. I read about, but didn't see Hardball
and it doesn't appear she is backing down.
perhaps the show on in a few minutes may have more to say than what others want us to hear?

:shrug:
dp
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 01:09 AM
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16. gee, I guess they can't say "we'll kill your husband" since
they already did that.

People like her are the only ones who are gonna uncover the truth. The people with nothing to lose.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 11:43 PM
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6. I KNEW IT! I'm listening to that SOB now,
what a way to cover!
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 12:03 AM
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7. Link?
What happened?
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 12:13 AM
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8. W-H-A-T H-A-P-P-E-N-E-D -?-
:kick:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 12:16 AM
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9. This happened
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 12:24 AM
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14. The damage is done though, right?
eom
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 12:26 AM
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15. thanks for the link
I don't know why anyone expected anything substantially different - they weren't about to come out and say Bush could have stopped it, I understand how this quote "There are people that, if I was doing the job, would certainly not be in the position they were in at that time because they failed." made some people hopeful but if anyone was going to get the arse over 9/11 then it sure as shit wasn't going to be Bushco
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 01:24 AM
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18. I wonder if he got one of those "early morning" calls..?
Like those Congressmen that changed their tune on the Medicare reform?
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 12:19 AM
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10. I'm afraid I
have to agree, time and time again nothing ever changes. If Clark or Dean or both goes after this do you think they'll be any changes. Will they receive any coverage? Will a certain Dem who shall remain nameless go after them and basically call them "traitors". I really is all so unbelievable, yet after 3 years so predictable.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 12:19 AM
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11. That Repug dirty dog knew that he would end up licking master's hand.
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1songbird Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 12:20 AM
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12. Watching Nightline it was obvious that someone was paid off.
When are we going to take Daschle to task for the Kerrey appointment? Kerrey worked with a group that advocated pre-emptive war with Iraq using bogus claims of Iraq being involved with 911. We really have no control over Bush* but we should be able to have some say within our own party. Is there any defense for Daschles actions?
Personally I don't think so.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 12:22 AM
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13. Whitewash
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 01:19 AM
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17. Kean as Head of the 9/11 Commission Leaves Little Doubt
Kean as Head of the 9/11 Commission Leaves Little Doubt That The Bush Administration Continues It’s Lack of Interest In The Truth




By Breadandwine





How easy it is to sell tourism in New Jersey and how hard it is proving to get to the bottom of the intelligence lapses leading up to 9/11. After Dr. “Secrecy” Henry Kissinger’s resignation, President Bush picked former New Jersey Governor Tom Kean as Chairman of the 9/11 commission, best known for his TV ads promoting state tourism in his familiar New England accent: “New Jersey and you: Puh-fect together.” Embarrassing disclosures about intelligence lapses may or may not discourage tourism in the tri-state area but we are nowhere closer to the truth. According to The New York Times (Dec. 17, 2002) Kean has no law degree or background in investigations. The Associated Press (Dec. 16, 2002) observed that although as governor he went on some trade missions, Kean has had very little experience in the areas he will need to know — foreign affairs, intelligence and defense. It was not just a “nice idea” that the chairman should have such experience. It is specifically stipulated in the legislation establishing the commission that the commission members should have “significant depth of experience in such professions as” law enforcement, law, intelligence and foreign affairs. Kean isn’t even an attorney.



Kean comes from an old and wealthy New Jersey family that based its fortune in utilities and banking. (New York Times, Dec. 17, 2002.) Kean currently sits on the boards of at least three corporations with international reach. One is the Pepsi Bottling Group, involved with the sugar industry which for decades has been embroiled in the politics over sugar producer Cuba (and, in fact, competitor Coca Cola’s chief executive from 1981 to 1997 was the late Cuban exile Roberto Goizueta). The second corporation is Amerada Hess Corporation, the oil and gas company. (Associated Press, Dec. 16, 2002.) So with Kean there is involvement with utilities and oil and gas. Kean’s family and personal involvement with the energy industry may or may not influence decisions of his related to a region of the world with vast petroleum deposits, but it is certainly a glaring conflict of interest. Kean also sits on the board of directors of Aramark, a food services company that has business agreements with Saudi Arabia, and Hess has oil exploration facilities in Indonesia and Malaysia, which are home to terrorists (Newsday, Dec. 17, 2002). It is a disturbing and well-known fact that oil companies in areas with a significant threat of terrorism typically pay protection money to the terrorists, as they do in Colombia.



Absurdly, President Bush has publicly told the 9/11 commission and the chairman he appoints that he wants it to uncover the “methods” of the “enemy.” Thus, ridiculously, the commission — 10 people — is being told by Bush to do a job the multi-billion dollar C.I.A. was supposed to do, instead of finding out why they didn’t — which is, in fact, the whole reason Congress set up the commission in the first place. With this stated bias the President is implying that daring to challenge and question the CIA on its failure on 9/11 may stand in the way of the administration’s military objectives in the oil-rich Middle East — where the petroleum industry stands to reap billions if, for instance, it can get its hands on Iraqi oil once the Saddam regime is defeated. Consequently, it is the most gross conflict of interest for the chairman of the 9/11 commission to have ties to the energy industry. And it is a continuing “mystery” of the Bush Administration that everyone they appoint has to be involved with the oil industry. Even Kissinger reportedly had ExxonMobil and Arco as clients although he refused to confirm this. And whereas with Dr. Kissinger the fear was that he would lie to the commission about the CIA, of great concern with Kean is that, with his lack of relevant experience, it will be easy for the CIA to lie to him.



This does not, however, mean that Kean is conflict-free with respect to the intelligence community. You see, for the better part of a decade, Kean sat on the board of the National Endowment for Democracy, which has often been accused of acting as a surrogate for the CIA, not to gather intelligence but to support right wing groups and even coups overseas. According to USA Today (12/18/02), Kean was a member of the board of NED. NED board members hold 3-year terms. NED annual reports indicate that Kean was on the NED board at least from 1991 to 1998, inclusive.



Just this year, a New York Times exposé (April 25, 2002) revealed that the NED had played a role in an unsuccessful coup attempt in Venezuela. The Times charged that even the State Department expressed concern that recipients of $877,000 in NED money may have actively plotted to overthrow the Venezuelan government. One recipient was the Confederation of Venezuelan Workers, which led work stoppages that galvanized opposition to the government. Moreover, the union’s leader, Carlos Ortega, worked closely with Pedro Carmona Estranga, the businessman who briefly took over from the democratically elected President Hugo Chávez in the failed overthrow. The NED also gave a grant of $339,998 to a foreign policy arm of the Republican Party, the International Republican Institute, which has an office in Venezuela. On April 12, 2002, that group publicly hailed Chávez’ ouster. The institute has close ties to the Bush Administration, which had also embraced the short-lived takeover. Lorne Craner, the assistant secretary of state for democracy, human rights and labor, is a former president of the Institute. In fact, according to the Times, the Bush Administration, which made no secret of its disdain for Chávez, turned to the NED to help the opposition to Chávez.



The National Endowment for Democracy is not a private organization, although it bills itself as “non-governmental.” It is funded by the U.S. government and it was set up in the early 1980s under President Reagan in the wake of scandals involving the CIA’s funding of right wing groups and coups overseas. In short, to “sanitize” these disbursements, a new organization was set up as a stand-in for the CIA: The NED. Allen Weinstein, who helped draft the legislation establishing the NED, was quite candid when he said of the NED in 1991, “A lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA.” (Washington Post, Sept. 22, 1991.)



According to NED annual reports (1994-96), from 1994 to 1996, the NED awarded 15 grants, totaling more than $2,500,000 to the American Institute for Free Labor Development. Former State Department employee and investigative journalist William Blum has charged in Rogue State that the AIFLD is “an organization used by the CIA for decades to subvert progressive labor unions.” Blum charges that, in effect, the NED serves as a way of “laundering” CIA money. Blum charges that the NED funded rightist labor organizations to help them oppose unions which were “too militantly pro-worker.” Moreover, this has taken place not just in countries with a threat of communist takeover but in well-established democracies including Spain, Portugal and France. One can only begin to imagine how Americans would feel if France were to meddle in American internal political affairs. In 1984 NED funds were also used to aid a Panamanian presidential candidate backed by Manuel Noriega and the CIA. According to The New York Times (April 25, 2002), NED funds were also used to sway the outcome of elections in Chile in 1988. According to Blum, NED successfully manipulated elections in Nicaragua in 1990 and Mongolia in 1996 and helped to overthrow democratically elected governments in Bulgaria in 1990 and Albania in 1991 and 1992. In Haiti in the late 90’s, NED was busy working on behalf of right wing groups opposed to former president Jean-Bertrand Aristide.



Right wing Cuban exile groups and media are also heavily supported. Especially disturbing among these disbursements to Cuban exile groups, between 1990 and 1992, the NED donated a quarter million dollars in American taxpayers’ money to the Cuban-American National Foundation, the ultra-fanatic anti-Castro Miami group. The CANF, in turn, financed Luis Posada Carriles, one of the most prolific and pitiless terrorists of modern times, who was involved in the blowing up of a Cuban airliner in 1976, which killed 73 people. In 1997, he was involved in a series of bomb explosions in Havana hotels. (New York Times, July 13, 1998.)



The endowment also played an important role in the Iran-Contra scandal of the 1980s, funding key components of Oliver North’s shadowy “Project Democracy” network, which waged war without congressional authorization, and ran arms and drugs. At one point in 1987, a White House spokesman stated that those at NED “run Project Democracy.” (Washington Post, Feb. 16, 1987, and see also New York Times, Feb. 15, 1987, p.1.) Even the prominent, conservative, libertarian Cato Institute has attacked the NED (New York Times, April 25, 2002) and the Cato web site quotes Senator Byron L. Dorgan of North Dakota stating of the NED, “This is a demonstration that you can have the most egregious abuse in the world for taxpayers’ dollars.”



Kean has been hailed as “middle of the road.” Whatever that proves. What difference does it make? That is not a qualification stipulated in the letter or spirit of the legislation establishing the 9/11 commission. Would we be reassured if arsenic were labeled “middle of the road”? The question is: Is he qualified? Is Kean qualified to uncover the truth about 9/11? And it has to be asked: How could someone as “honorable” as Kean join an organization with such a past? How could someone as “honorable” as Kean allow his name to be associated with such a group? With many of the above activities having occurred while Kean was on the NED’s board of directors, either Kean approved of these NED entanglements, looked the other way or didn’t have a clue. Whichever of the three, it disqualifies him from serving as chairman of the 9/11 commission. Period.



Because there is too much evidence and there are too many witnesses that will still be ignored by the “new” 9/11 commission, a group has been formed to push for an alternative forum. We are the Un-Congress Group. We believe it is absurd to think that Democrats are powerless when we still control nearly half the seats on Capitol Hill. That has to count for something. It is entirely legal and, we believe, entirely feasible politically for Democratic lawmakers to get together in informal, unofficial hearings and invite witnesses and whistle blowers who have been ignored to testify. This does not even require subpoena power because many witnesses who were never allowed to testify want to come forward and don’t need to be forced. And despite its drawbacks, F.O.I.A. can also be used to obtain many documents even without subpoena powers. We are calling on Democratic lawmakers to hold such informal hearings extensively over the next two years on a whole range of issues the GOP does not want discussed, including Enron, Harken Energy, election “irregularities,” Echelon and increased government surveillance powers and—9/11. Even where some hearings already exist, we want an alternative process to serve as a constant gadfly and to hold official commissions’ feet to the fire. Let the Republicans accuse and complain. It’s all they do and it’s what they will do anyway, so we might as well get our money’s worth. We are also convinced that money for such hearings could be raised by Democratic lawmakers on Capitol Hill, simply by their speaking with their wealthy contacts. A key figure in the DNC legal department has also assured us that such fund raising would be “trivially easy,” raising even a hundred thousand dollars “in an afternoon” (or much more over several days). He assured us that the publicity such unofficial hearings would generate for Democratic concerns, issues and office holders, and the fund-raising to support those hearings, would not violate the new restrictions on soft money. Even big contributors who will be restricted from giving as much under the new campaign rules will have no legal problem donating to the “Un-Hearings.”



We call these hearings the “un-hearings” because they will be unofficial and because they seek to challenge the GOP Congress. And since they will be unofficial, any Democratic lawmaker can participate regardless of which committees he currently sits on. So if you are currently sitting on some boring, dreary “sewer maintenance” committee—the GOP’s equivalent of sending you to Siberia—here is your chance to make a difference. The Un-Hearings are a bottom-up version of the top-down actions of “give-‘em-hell” Harry Truman who kept sending legislation to a right-wing GOP Congress that he knew they would reject—just to showcase how bad they were. The Republicans think they are king of the hill and can now tell Democrats to “be good little boys and run along now.” On issue after issue the GOP thinks it can tell us to shut up simply because it has razor thin majorities on Capitol Hill. But no one can silence a hearing process that is merely a public forum because it is protected by free speech.

peace
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 01:28 AM
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19. You can't put the egg back into the shell....
No matter how much they try, the cat is out of the bag. The Democrats will not let up on this story until we get some answers from this bunch of secretive con-jobs in the White House. If they want us to stop talking about it, put the facts on the table...instead of trying to conceal them from the American people. We're not cutting them any slack until they come clean. We are tired of their lies and their secrets and their deals and their cover-ups.
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 01:35 AM
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20. My efforts to keep the egg out - letter to the NY Times
Posted this in the other thread too... but I am so pissed off I am keen to get it maximum exposure..

To: Arthur Sulzberger Jr., Chairman & Publisher - New York Times


Dear Sir,

Having just read your paper's coverage of the 911 comments by Commission of Inquiry chair Thomas Kean I am compelled to write to you publisher to publisher on a matter of extreme importance.

The report I am concerned about is this one.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/19/national/19KEAN.html

This report, which I presume is in Friday's New York Times print edition, followed a report on CBS Evening News broadcast Wednesday evening. A report which I would have thought would have been followed up in Thursday's paper rather than Friday's. The CBS report can be read here:

9/11 Chair: Attack Was Preventable
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/12/17/eveningnews/main589137.shtml

The report begins:

********

"This is a very, very important part of history and we've got to tell it right," said Thomas Kean.

"As you read the report, you're going to have a pretty clear idea what wasn't done and what should have been done," he said. "This was not something that had to happen."

Appointed by the Bush administration, Kean, a former Republican governor of New Jersey, is now pointing fingers inside the administration and laying blame.

"There are people that, if I was doing the job, would certainly not be in the position they were in at that time because they failed. They simply failed," Kean said.

***********

On Thursday night ABC News's Nightline followed this report up with what looks like an absolute retraction of the original story.

Sept. 11 Panel: Bush, Clinton Not to Blame
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20031218_2530.html

Sept. 11 Commission Chairman Says There's No Evidence to Blame Clinton or Bush Administrations

I am writing to you today sir, because in the NYT report published today your reporter appears to have completely missed the significance of what has happened. Whether willfull or not the news judgment here is clearly flawed and its implications flow far wider than this simple story.

It is the sudden retraction of Kean's claws that is now the story.

On Wednesday former Governor Kean is saying heads must roll over 911 failures at the highest level, on Thursday - including to your reporters - he is saying the opposite.

Yet your report, brief as it is, covers this purely in passing, as if it is of no consequence. It leads off with allegations about low-level FBI and Immigration officials, when Kean's statements on Wednesday were clearly aimed far higher.

In effect it glosses over an abrupt U-Turn by the chairman of the investigation looking at the most serious attack on US soil ever.

What is shocking about this NYT report (the NY Times is the paper of record in your country and this is a local story) is the failure to address the substance of what has occurred.

Why does today's report not mention the Presidential briefings which have already been covered in depth by your paper? And which were impliedly the substance of Kean's initial comments?

Why does it not mention the Condeleeza Rice quote in the CBS report, and the comments on this made by 911 widow by Kristen Breitweiser?

Why does it not question how it is that Kean is pointing fingers one day at the White House, and 24 hours later is pointing them at low level people in the FBI and Immigration?

I am writing to you in the hope that you will ensure your paper properly addresses this most serious of issue.

We already know, and your paper has reported, that Kean's commission has had enormous difficulty getting the White House to comply with requests for information, in particular the Daily Intelligence Briefings and the August 6th 2001 special briefing.

A prima facie case now exists that now that he has seen these, Kean has been knobbled in public by administration officials over his intentions as of where he was planning on taking his investigation as of Wednesday night.

And at present your paper is clearly complicit in assisting this cover-up.

I expect far more from your paper, and I trust that you do too.

Yours sincerely

Alastair Thompson
Publisher
Scoop Media
New Zealand

CC: fair@fair.org

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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 01:50 AM
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21. Did Kean wake up with a bleeding horse's head in his bed last night?
?
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:01 AM
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22. Yes sireee I do declare he did...
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