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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 07:55 PM
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Is April Glaspie dead?
I heard someone mention this on Democracy Now the other day..
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Pale_Rider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 08:08 PM
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1. Rumors had been circulating ...
Edited on Thu Dec-18-03 09:00 PM by white_rider
... that she died in a car crash in Feb 2003. Supposely she was Consul General in South Africa in 2000. She's probably now in hiding since Saddam could call her as a witness.

For those on DU not aware of April Glaspie, she essentially gave Saddam a green light to deal with Kuwait.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE5/april.html

U.S. Ambassador Glaspie - We have no opinion on your Arab - Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary (of State James) Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in the 1960's, that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America. (Saddam smiles)

On edit: Feb 2003 it was reported that Bernie Ward on KGO reported her dead.
http://hnn.us/comments/8905.html
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 08:22 PM
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2. Why wasn't she pursued for an interview questioning what happened in '90?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 08:29 PM
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3. She became extremely hard to reach
I remember lots of 'could not be reached for comment' statements in newspaper articles about the 'green light' message.
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Pale_Rider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 08:34 PM
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4. There was a congressional investigation ...
... that ended up being inconclusive and not much of it has been published.

Here's another interesting involvement of April in the job of global brinkmanship.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Project%20Censored/CensoredNews_1990.html

As for April Glaspie, after some inconclusive congressional hearings- where she denied her statements to Saddam Hussein, she disappeared into obscurity as an ambassador-in-residence at a San Diego university. In 1993, she returned to active duty at the State Department's Bureau of African Affairs where she was criticized for provoking Somalia's warlord Mohammed Aideed's hostility. In January 1995, Glaspie took over operations of the United Nation's Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian refugees in the West Bank (The Independent, 3/13/95). By April 1995, Glaspie was reportedly in a turf battle with the U.N. special envoy responsible for distributing aid in Gaza (The Washington Times, 4/28/96).

She's probably out there somewhere stirring up the shit.
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Pale_Rider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 09:10 PM
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7. Mo' on April and Aideed ...
http://www.etext.org/Politics/Somalia.News.Update/Volume.3/snu-03.010

The UN has officially maintained that it was conducting a
routine weapons inspection inside the radio compound when Aideed's
followers opened fire on the Pakistanis. The incident sparked a six-
month, failed manhunt for Aideed, during which hundreds more Somalis
perished and about 80 additional UN peace-keepers were killed. Recent
reports have pointed to the role played by a high UNSOM official,
April Glaspie, in the events preceeding the June 5 tragedy. She is
said to have ordered the inspection despite the advice against it by
several other UNOSOM officials and despite the warning by a SNA
commander
that the inspection would be interpreted as an attack on
the nearby radiostation.


Good going April ... she must be doing some Iraqi occupation management.
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Pale_Rider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 09:25 PM
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11. Mo' on April in Gaza ...
OK, looks like I might be wrong about her managing the Iraqi occupation.

Complete with phone number ...

http://exact-me.org/institutions_pal.txt

NAME OF INSTITUTION: United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA
CONTACT OR DIRECTOR: April Glaspie
POSITION TITLE OF CONTACT: Co-ordinator of operations, West Bank and Gaza
ADDRESS OF INSTITUTION: UNRWA, P.O. Box 19149, Jerusalem
TELEPHONE: (02)5890401
TELEFAX: (02)322714
E-MAIL:
ACTIVITIES: Provides relief, health and education services for Palestinian refugees.

Though a different number can be found here ...
http://www.uni-kassel.de/~abuleil/contacts.html

UNRWA - United Nations Relief & Works Agency for Palestine
Sheikh Jarah - East Jerusalem Contact: Amb. April Glaspie Coordinator of UNRWA Operations in West Bank & Gaza Tel: 972-2-890401 Fax: 972-2-322714 Contact: Mr. Klaus Worm Director UNRWA - Gaza Tel: 972-7-822660 Fax: 972-7-822327
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retyred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 09:12 PM
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She was
but wouldn't address it all!

APRIL GLASPIE TRANSCRIPT
http://www.govsux.com/april_glaspie_transcript.htm

One month later, British journalists obtain the the above tape and transcript of the Saddam - Glaspie meeting of July 29, 1990. Astounded, they confront Ms. Glaspie as she leaves the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad.

Journalist 1 - Are the transcripts (holding them up) correct, Madam Ambassador? (Ambassador Glaspie does not respond)

Journalist 2 - You knew Saddam was going to invade (Kuwait ) but you didn't warn him not to. You didn't tell him America would defend Kuwait. You told him the opposite - that America was not associated with Kuwait.

Journalist 1 - You encouraged this aggression - his invasion. What were you thinking?

U.S. Ambassador Glaspie - Obviously, I didn't think, and nobody else did, that the Iraqis were going to take all of Kuwait.

Journalist 1 - You thought he was just going to take some of it? But, how could you? Saddam told you that, if negotiations failed , he would give up his Iran (Shatt al Arab waterway) goal for the Whole of Iraq, in the shape we wish it to be. You know that includes Kuwait, which the Iraqis have always viewed as an historic part of their country!

Journalist 1 - American green-lighted the invasion. At a minimum, you admit signaling Saddam that some aggression was okay - that the U.S. would not oppose a grab of the al-Rumeilah oil field, the disputed border strip and the Gulf Islands (including Bubiyan) - the territories claimed by Iraq?

(Ambassador Glaspie says nothing as a limousine door closed behind her and the car drives off.)

************************

Read the rest on the link above, very interesting



retyred in fla
“good night paul, wherever you are”

So I read this book


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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 08:46 PM
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5. Funny you should mention that...
I distinctly remember Bernie Ward saying that she died in a car accident. This was probably at least 6 weeks ago - but I googled her and could find no indication that she had died at all.

So I don't know, but would love to find out.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 09:08 PM
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6. Some old links remain but Bush Gov web gives only FOIA instructions
When did April's Gov history become a Freedom of Information request!

And the bio's have been scrubbed so there is no year of death on any government site.

This is wild!


:-)

http://www.fas.org/news/iraq/1990/900923-glaspie.htm
http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/gulf-secret.htm

http://www.cjr.org/archives.asp?url=/93/2/iraqgate.asp

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_cr/s092002.html
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Pale_Rider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 09:35 PM
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12. Court refuses to open records of conversation between diplomat and Saddam
Hmmm .... dateline 1994 ....

http://www.rcfp.org/news/1994/0111a.html

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Records of the long- disputed conversation in 1990 between former U.S. ambassador to Iraq April Glaspie and Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, a dialogue that occurred one week before Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, will remain classified even though Glaspie gave her version of the contents of the records in public testimony before congressional committees at the end of the Persian Gulf War.

The U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C., (D.C. Cir.) ruled in mid-December that Glaspie's revelations of facts in testimony did not waive the government's right to claim exemptions for the underlying records.


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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 09:12 PM
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8. Great question kick.
:kick:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 09:12 PM
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9. Baxterized?
The question has to be asked. It has to be asked.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 09:23 PM
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10. I can't find any record of her death on Google, but there's much there
about her "flub ups" with Iraq. I didn't post the links, because wasn't sure anyone was interested, but it doesn't appear she's dead, but no news of her since Poppy. :-(
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 09:53 PM
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13. kick
..never mind , where's Michael Jackson, he he :eyes:

:kick:
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 05:02 AM
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14. kick
:-)
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 05:14 AM
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15. def
kick
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