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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 11:43 AM
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Excellent article in Newsweek about right-wing media

I think this is an excellent article that describes our problems but no answers. At least it is nice to see these type of question being asked in Major media sources.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/941331.asp?0dm=s17Bk

But obvious answers are often the wrong ones, and so it is in this case. The difference between what many conservatives are doing on air and what liberals ought to be inclined to do is a difference not of ideology, but of technique. And the technique of disdain, derogation and dismissal isn’t something you really want to cultivate when the media need content and thoughtful analysis now more than ever.
Look at Ann Coulter, who became the agent provocateur of conservative media with a best-selling book titled “Slander” and another called “Treason.” (Next up: “Impetigo!”) What is a lifelong liberal, a Roman Catholic who devours books and is nuts about this nation to make of Coulter’s assertion that liberals have contempt for religion, don’t read and hate America? In your heart, you know she’s wrong.
But that’s not the point. Coulter has said with gusto that she wishes Timothy McVeigh had blown up the New York Times building, that all Muslims need to be converted and that all reporters are “retarded.” There’s the crux of the matter in that last word: middle-school rhetoric. Sometimes the level is more poisonous than puerile.
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Conservative journals and TV shows aren’t riven by such guilt; they’re happily unrepentant about their own rightward slant. And unlike liberals, conservatives don’t eat their young. Liberals feel such a need to prove that they see all sides that they can’t wait to tell you about their bad one. If Bill Bradley had been a conservative running for president, supporters would have talked endlessly about his intellect. All liberals ever discussed was his inability to give a barnburner of a speech. Liberals always made Mario Cuomo sound like a spiky pedagogue instead of an uncompromising intellectual. Both are correct, but which one is useful to the cause?
Cuomo’s brief stint on radio is used to prove that liberals can’t cut it in the on-air arena. Why would anyone think that former politicians would make good entertainers? That’s what these programs showcase, and why they prosper in the age of reality TV—the heat without light, the sarcasm, the rhetoric are all in the name of that bastard child of the television age we call infotainment. The problem with hiring some entertaining liberal commentators is that the obvious suspects—Robin Williams, Chris Rock, Michael Moore—are already making too much money being professional entertainers.
Would it be worth the trade-offs to mimic the form? While it’s fine for Al Franken to call his upcoming book on the right “Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them,” you don’t want an entire network of that sort of invective. Bottom line: you can’t out-Coulter Coulter and still maintain any standing as someone who is in favor of really illuminating the issues. Is it worth spending millions trying to mimic a technique that’s too often just a grown-up version of nah nah nah nah nah nah? Nah.

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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 12:07 PM
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1. This fell like a rock so gunna give it a kick
:kick: It is an interesting article
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 12:34 PM
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2. corporate media
Edited on Mon Jul-28-03 12:42 PM by Mel
not conservative the networks are corporate and in the end what they are doing is bad for liberals and conservatives alike.

They are doing a fine job of dividing the people it's working beautifully!

As long as we are all fighting each other we won't turn on them.

While we are busy blaming each other what we fail to see is the big picture they are 'Corporate Media'
Damn the people and that means all the people what matters is their bottom line period.

Conservatives lose their jobs, their homes, their healthcare, die in Wars, they breathe the same air and drink the same water ect. ect. just like the liberals do and guess who is not doing their damn job of reporting it 'Corporate Media'

I think the reporter is overlooking the big picture and that's why the 'corporate media'
allows what she sees to happen not once does she even eXplain or attempt to eXplain that. She's just stating the obvious that isn't going to help so freaking what?

If I took her seriously, which I don't, it tells me oh no it's wrong for the liberals to want to fight back they are above that and Mr. and Mrs. Drobny shouldn't spend their money on it.
Just what's her point on trying to discourage it?

From the bottom of her little ole' liberal heart, then she speaks about how liberals eat their own? hurrrump sounds like she's doing just that in a softer gentler way.

I didn't see Molly or Al eat each other did any of you? What gives? What am I missing here?
Is is just that I'm so damn disgusted with the crap that AmeriKa Corporate Pravda's been trying too feed me?

Which is it? We eat each other so we liberals just need to get over it? We don't fight back the way she thinks is becoming? So we just let it keep on happening? I mean come on??????


Why doesn't she touch on anything about the Right and who the sponsers of this 'corporate media' mess we have is? Nope not that. But ohhhh from the bottom of her little ole' liberal heart she can't take the time to even touch on that! Come on!
Smoke and Mirrors.....they know we are sick of it but they aren't going to change a damn thing in the ' Corporate Media' unless WE make them!
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 12:57 PM
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3. I agree with all you say but is still nice to see a mention of right-wing
hatred and bellicosity in a major media source. I agree she is wrong to say we should just be "above it all" But I keep thinking Drip Drip Drip.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 01:16 PM
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6. "Conservatives" among the electorate today...
...are the "some of the people" who "can be fooled all of the time".
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 01:13 PM
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4. Yup, definitely no solutions in her editorial, but I agree
that its nice to see this pondered in an editorial on MSNBC.
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 01:15 PM
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5. Thanks for posting this. I disagree with the author's assumption
that liberal talk radio will be filled with hateful invective. Rush tries to pass off his bile as the "truth", until someone calls him on it, at which point it is just "entertainment".

Al Franken mixes biting satire with truthful commentary, and it is usually obvious which mode he is in (unless you're Anna Quindlen). I expect liberal radio to expose right-wing misdeeds with humor but without the deliberate lies and distortions common in shows like Rush and Weiner.
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 06:18 PM
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7. 2 Good Newsweek Articles!
There was also another article in the same issue about bush jr. acting as a regular guy when he has no respect for regular guys.
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