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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 11:23 AM
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Camille Paglia Will Be On C-Span2 This Sunday At Noon
I think she's great

a pro porn feminist

and a lipstick lesbian to boot.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 11:30 AM
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1. I think she's great too. Does she still write for anywhere?
I've read her books and used to read her regularly in Salon until she stopped writing for them. Even when I disagreed with her Bush salivating and Clinton bashing, I never felt like she was being opportunistic. I wish there was still a regular avenue in which I could read her writing. I'd be curious as to her take on current situations in the world.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 11:36 AM
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2. I Know She Wasn't A Fan Of HRC Who I Admire
but I didn't know she's a Bush sychophant.

She used to write at Salon.

I like her because she is full of contradictions.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 11:39 AM
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3. I'll be washing my hair.
:-)
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 11:41 AM
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4. Always been a big fan of her.
Edited on Mon Jul-28-03 11:46 AM by MindPilot
She calls herself a "libertarian democrat" and she promotes real sexual and gender equality.

This is particuarlly interesting given that my girlfriend dumped me this weekend because she can't be intimate with a man who likes porn.

I told her any guy who says he doesn't is either lying or not telling the truth.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 11:43 AM
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5. I Once Read An Article
where she was celebrating the virtues of gay porn and how liberating gay men and gay sex was.

It was entertaining.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 11:53 AM
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7. Yes, she always throws that one out in response to the
"porn demeans, exploits and objectifes women" argument.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 11:44 AM
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6. Toss Hitchens in the mix and I might watch. ;-)
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 12:07 PM
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8. I think she's a nutcase
Her writing was incoherent, and her views offensive (not about porn--I don't want to get into that). As a gay person, it irritates me that the only gay writers who get any type of publicity within the mainstream press are whackos--her and Andy Sullivan are the two examples I'm thinking of.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 12:12 PM
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9. Is this the same Camille Paglia
who said that the TV program "Charlie's Angels" was a great representative of the women's rights movement? :eyes:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 12:16 PM
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10. when did she say that
I have heard that argument made about the Spice Girls too.

It's this whole "girl power" thing.

I don't know if either has any great social significance.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 01:38 PM
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15. It's just something I heard her say
during some interview a couple of years ago. She's labeled as a "leading feminist" but everytime I hear her speak I end up scratching my head wondering what the hell she's talking about. There were so many holes in that one assertion, personally, I've relegated her to "nut job" status.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 12:20 PM
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11. Camille Paglia is a gasbag!
a self-loathing lesbian, mysogonistic anti-feminist and anti-liberal. She's a contrarian and nothing more.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 01:17 PM
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14. Thank you!!
I completely agree with you. She's a total whore who panders to the dominant male culture, yet somehow passes herself off as a feminist.

She found a niche and she's exploiting it to the hilt. She wouldn't know what true feminism was if it bit her in her fat, opportunistic ass.
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slappypan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 12:20 PM
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12. interesting how much support she has here
I guess as long as you "like porn" it doesn't matter how much of an incoherent, phony, fame-whoring, embarrassing, misogynous buffoon you are, you will still get props from certain quarters.

As far as I'm concerned, Julie Burchill had the last word on Camille Paglia.
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 12:40 PM
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13. she doesn't seem to have much support among feminists...
while no one can speak for all feminists of course, if I recall correctly from the NOW web site and the Ms. Magazine web site/forums, the feminists who post there think she's kind of ridiculous.

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