The U.N. has deteriorated from what it was originally meant to be. There is alot of ill will in the U.N. towards the US. And regardless of what Bush said, it isn't so much the UN resolutions that we went to Iraq.There is a lot of ill will in general towards the US in the international community in general right now. A lot of that ill will coming directly from the unilateralist moves by this President.
Bush Sr. was able to leverage the UN and the international community in the past and he was a conservative. He saw the value in the UN no matter its flaws. Why can't the neocons in power now?
But late in the pregnancy, doesn't the fact that there IS now another viable human life in the mix change the equation even a little?Many moderates and left leaning types agree with this with one qualm. There has to be a provision for the health and safety of the mother. There are others that are as paranoid about abortion rights and the NRA is about gun rights. They view that any modification of pro-choice rights starts the slip downhill to the point that abortions are banned.
Wrong... anyone who fought for this country, and especially those who were harmed in the line of duty.. should be taken care of 100%
I have never heard anyone on the conservative side say exactly what you just said, that what you describe above is the way to boost morale. Who said that and when?Veterans groups have been up in arms for awhile because veterans benefits are going to be cut.
http://www.usnewswire.com/topnews/qtr1_2003/0312-149.htmlThis was supported by the Bush administration.
Bush also wanted to cut combat pay for the troops in Iraq.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/135143_troops15.html He backed off that quick.
Let business and the free market do it's thing, let people smoke pot if they want. There is absolutely no justification for marijuana being illegal.Oh, the libertarian line is out. Good, we don't have to play at you being conservative when you are really libertarian at heart. That is fine just some conservatives are in terrible denial.
Civil liberties are about personal freedoms in my eyes. Business interests are fine till they begin to conflict with the interest of individual and the public in large. Keep government out of my private life. I think we can both agree to that.
The difference is that when the public and business interest collide there is no force in a capitalist society outside of a representative government that can stop large corporations from inflicting their will on society.
My position is that you work with businesses and environmentalists and labor and other groups at the same table. You can't in a capitalist society take the hardline anti-anything-business line. But, you cannot be whores to business either. Look at many of the laws put forth by the administration and they are basically giveaways to vested interests that donated to the Bush campaign. It is frightening. It is not libertarian or conservative in the traditional sense. It is pure corporatism. You have to give businesses the opportunity to play fair and if they don't use regulations and other methods to protect the common good.
Who said that? When?On the condom comment. There are a lot of fundamentalist or fundies as the folks here on the left like to call them that believe that condoms and their availability promotes underage sexual behavior. Try a big Republican right group like the Christian coalition and read some of their stuff. They promote this idea all the time.
I believe that no American should be denied health care.Enlightment. This is an interesting conversation.
I have always tended toward a single payer system with lots of choices implemented through private insurers. Basically the government just gathers the money gets the best rate and covers the 45 million Americans with no insurance. Part of the money from that would come directly from the benefits of the negotiated lower rate. The other part would come from a small corporate tax. Did I say the dirty word? Yes, this kind of plan benefits corporations on a massive scale by shifting the burden from HR departments for the administration of healthcare plans to the government. A tax like this would be a small price to pay.
However, any plan that covers all Americans and do not amount to a fleecing of America by the insurance industry is ok with me.
He was a bad guy then, was a bad guy now. If indeed we did arm and support him, that lays upon us an even GREATER responsibility to deal with him. If, as so many DUers say, that Saddam is our mess... then it was out job to clean it up, too.IF? I can send you the pictures of Rumsfeld shaking his hands or the transcripts where Congress wanted to sanction Sadamm for gasing his own people but Reagan said no. He was our mess.
My problem with the war has many parts.
I do not like the idea forwarded since Truman that Congress should abandon its Constitutional duty to be the ones who actually declare war.
I do not like the cooked data that tried to paint Sadamm as an immediate threat when he was not. Going to war on lies like the Niger connection to nuclear weapons thing was false is just bad.
I do not like the way the diplomacy ahead of the war was done and how it alienated a lot of allies and forced many not to support us. When you come off as arrogant and the people in those countries cannot abide supporting the war then many politicians in those same countries cannot afford to buck the will of their people the way Tony Blair and the leader of Italy did.
I do not like no bid contracts that put 2 billion tax payer dollars into the hands of Cheny's old company Halliburton. It smacks of payback in the worse way.
I do not like... well this could be a completely seperate thread and I will stop now.
As soon as you prove that Bush deliberately lied, I'm ready to debate it any time.Not only was the Niger connection disproved but also it was acknowledged that Bush administration knew it was false. Bush has to take responsibility of his administration. I know that Reagan never did but ... I think he should.
But that is not really the big lie. The big lie is the terroists connection. Most people do not even talk about this in the media which is beyond me. Iraq was a secular state awash and surrounded by radical islamist. The Al Qaeda connection that Bush spoke of many times is the biggest load. Sadamm was a bad guy, a murdering dog. Still, there was not a great deal of love between him and Bin Laden even after they met. Sadamm oppressed the fundamentalist of all stripes in Iraq and he never could stomach Bin Laden's fundie views. There has never been any provable connection between Iraq and 9/11. That was the biggest lie.
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