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Lobo_13 (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 10:20 PM Original message |
The myth of the "Swing Voter" |
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rbnyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. Personally, |
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arewethereyet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
2. I'd adjust that to be simply moderate |
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KaraokeKarlton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
3. Hey! I'm not a "myth" and I'm not a Republican either |
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arewethereyet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 10:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Kind of like how Clinton and Carter did ? And Edwards would ? |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 10:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. different ball game |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 11:04 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Unlike * , Ghengis Khan had at least one atribute in that he knew......... |
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Lobo_13 (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 11:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. And that's exactly what I'm talking about. |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 11:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
23. Yeah same here |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
4. I'd say that if we have "moderate" Dems that would vote for Bush..... |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
6. Let me recommend some reading for you |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 11:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. If there were no swing voters, then then how do you account for |
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Lobo_13 (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-03 12:13 AM Response to Reply #21 |
34. Differed widely? |
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TexasPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
7. there's a reasonable thread over on P/C on this |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
8. Swing voters are extremely well documented. There are |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 10:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. But what happens whrn you lose your BASE in the pursuit... |
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arewethereyet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 10:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. As McGovern, Dukakis and Humphrey did ? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-03 11:38 AM Response to Reply #11 |
44. Dukakis and Humphrey did not "mobilize the base" |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 11:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. Reality bites. And the swing voter is reality. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
9. If you're on the right, the swing voter looks like a Democrat in suburbs |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
12. Bravo, Lobo! |
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Blue_Chill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
15. Go ahead, ignore reality and pretend your base alone will win it |
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Lobo_13 (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 11:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. And what's your source for the registration numbers? |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 11:51 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. A message that strongly energizes your base, will also... |
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sally343434 (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
17. It's not a myth at all |
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Lobo_13 (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 11:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. And that 20% doesn't mean squat |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 11:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. And there's an assumption the 50% who do not vote... |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-03 12:12 AM Response to Reply #22 |
33. So how does that theory explain 64,72,80,84, & 92? |
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Lobo_13 (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-03 12:22 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Let's see |
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dolstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
19. How about the myth of the 48% Democratic base? |
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Lobo_13 (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 11:33 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. I'd be more worried about |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
20. Something about the argument sounds so irrational... |
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goodhue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
25. agreed |
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Lobo_13 (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 11:45 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. It's not just pursuing the swing voter |
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Woodstock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
28. No, swing voter is not a "euphemism for moderate Republican" |
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Lobo_13 (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-14-03 11:48 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. I capitulate |
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Woodstock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-03 12:29 AM Response to Reply #30 |
37. not sure if you know about this site |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-03 12:01 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. But wouldn't most of the Greens and many "independents" vote... |
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Woodstock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-03 12:27 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. I don't quite understand your question |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-03 12:51 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Many Greens are "liberal".... |
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Woodstock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-03 01:06 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. My thoughts |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-03 01:35 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. But that was part of our base... |
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Isome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-03 01:49 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. But weren't those things... |
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3rdParty (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-03 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
42. why worry? |
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LoneStarLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-03 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
43. There's One Major Problem, Though |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-03 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
45. Incomplete posting (removed) |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-03 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
46. How NOT to pursue swing voters |
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Isome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-15-03 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
47. This is just terrible. |
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