These same military families upset about casualties were the same ones ...

[Postman]

criticizing the anti-war movement before the imperialist invasion and accused the movement of being "anti-american" or "not supporting the troops"...Not all of them mind you but a good percentage.

Are they proud of our Great Misleaders bravery in daring the guerillas to "bring 'em on"?

Are they finally awakening from their mindless patriotic slumber with dreams of flags unfurled and military conquest?

Did they realize it meant sacrificing their own flesh and blood for the agrandizement of others? Only to receive a flag draped coffin and the memory of a loved one whose life went unlived.

Are all the lies worth it?

Impeach. Bush.

[whathappened]

1. yesterday was fine with me ,

yet another day has gone by and he still holds gore's office

[Jacobin]

2. They thought they were cheerleading a fucking football game

The light came on ONLY when their own sons and daughters ended up with blood and guts spilling.

Fucking moronic sycophantic warmongering nazi red neck pricks. Now they are whining.......sorta like they do when the beer at the football stadium is warm.

Fork em. War is REAL....its blood and guts. If they don't want a war, they shouldn't have been rooting for one.

[Droopy]

13. I posted something similar to this the other day

Cuss words and all. Something like 'you wanted it, now you got it motherfuckers!', pardon my French. That's real ugly, but that's the way I was really feeling in response to war supporters complaining about Iraq.

I was against the war from the get-go. I think we should bring the troops home. But I really wish that all those who were supporting the war will understand what this business is all about. How could we have forgotten Vietnam? Iraq isn't like that but troops are still dying over there on almost a daily basis. And they will continue to die. And it's all been in vain. There was no threat.

War supporters, listen to your cousin Droopy. I tried to tell you that Hussein was not a threat to us even if he did have WMD. He couldn't touch us with it. I have it from a man who worked in Hussein's nuke program that that program was discontinued in the mid 90s. Hussein didn't have ICBMs and he's half way around the world. He didn't have anything to give to terrorists to terrorize us and there were no established links with Hussein and Al Qaida anyway. I knew all this before the war. Now if some little truck driver from Ohio knew that, why didn't the powers that be? Could it be that they knew there was no threat but wanted the war for other reasons? That's the only logical explanation. BushCo lied. You cheered them on. You invited death. But I guess it's all ok because it wasn't your kid, right?

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[Postman]

5. They aren't "fighting for America".....

I see you've fallen into the trap also. They don't "fight for America". That's the bullshit spin the gullible public swallows to justify handing over their kids to a corporate mercenary squad whose job is to protect corporate america's economic portfolio. Whether it involves militarily supporting a dictator, a democratic regime, or something in-between.

[sugus]

14. JUST KILLING AND DYING FOR OIL

If you are against oil companies ambition, ¿are you antiamerican?

If we want to protect our soldiers and protect american citizens, perhaps we would have to organize better against the bosses of these dangerous oil companies and military industrie business.

[newyawker99]

15. Hi sugus!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[IndianaGreen]

10. All we have left are the bones of those that died in an unnecessary war

We are still finding the bones of those that died in the Great War of 1914, a war that increased the wealth of the arms merchants and the war profiteers.

[LiberalLibra]

4. EVERYONE is entitled to learn from their mistakes, that is what......

.....these military families are doing. Give them a dam break for god's sake. They are loosing their loved ones and no one deserves that.

[Postman]

7. No one has more empathy for these families than I...

I served in the military also. I was young and stupid once.

[sugus]

6. Bombing International Press Hotel Palestina was WILD censorship again

Public opinion musn´t see again on TV, images of their sons being dragged through the streets by an angry iraqian crowd, as Somalia.

http://www4.localaccess.com/dixon/somalia/memories.html

Bombing Hotel Palestina with many journalists and cameramen inside was the fastest method to prevent some uncomfortable images to american public. The Day after bombing hotel, all real periodism came back home, and now we and family victims just can see what militar goverment wants.

[sfecap]

8. They are learning the hardest lesson of all...

War is final.

I don't care what they did or thought before this needless war.

They suffer the loss of loved ones. They know too well the reality of what the unelected fraud's lies have wrought.

It is a very tough lesson.

I am sorry for their loss.

I am sorry for the Iraqis who have lost family members.

Never forget.

[Redleg]

9. How do you know they were the same people?

Or even a "good percentage?"

[Postman]

11. I don't, It's hyperbole based on my personal knowledge and experience...

that the military has, at least in my experience, supported right-wing republican "wars"

[Postman]

12. To which I might add....

let me deflate this ballon that always gets floated by upper-level brass before they launch there wars. It never fails to occur that the General or the Admiral standing at the podium will declare with a straight face that "no one hates war more than the warrior" - to which I say - poppycock.

It was my experience working in the Combat Information Center of an aircraft carrier that the most gung-ho, warmongering types were the pilots flying off of the flight deck. Its what they train for.

[NNN0LHI]

16. And if their loved ones had went over their, kicked a bunch of Arab ass...

...real quick and been home to the marching bands by now many of them would still be caling us un-American traitors. Take that to the bank.

Don

[soup]

17. Exactly.

and my right-wing go-bush war-mongering neighbor would still be gloating and mocking and making sure he was outside to throw another verbal barb every time I step out my front door, rather than avoiding me.

But, it still wouldn't make it (the invasion) right.

[NNN0LHI]

18. And don't get me wrong either. I have already forgiven these people

I just will never forget.

Don

[catmandu57]

19. They didn't know what war was

Still don't know. They are finding out what a guerrilla war can do, but they didn't know real war is blood and suffering, on both sides.
Our recent history of war has been firing cruise missiles and dropping bombs, clean antiseptic video game war.
Now they are finding out as so many smiling brides that marry in haste, the real shit comes after the honeymoon. All the I told you sos in the world aren't going to change things. The right thing to do would be to heed senator Chambliss and crawl to the UN beg them to help us, but that's not going to happen.
I mourn the loss on both sides for totally unnecessary death and suffering, sometimes it takes getting hit between the eyes with a 2x4 to wake up.