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KaraokeKarlton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 02:40 PM Original message |
Forced Work for Welfare and Forced Work for Diploma |
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Beaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's all a part of the education- them's the rules, and that's life. |
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KaraokeKarlton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 03:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I already graduated many moons ago |
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Beaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 03:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. what kind of pressure are kids under...? |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
3. All schoolwork is forced work for a diploma in a way |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
4. The hostility towards those on assistance on the part of "progressives" |
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KaraokeKarlton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 03:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Don't even go there |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 03:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. It *needs* to go there |
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KaraokeKarlton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 03:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Not in Vermont |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 04:51 PM Response to Reply #15 |
40. You've had some good feedback here on this issue. |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
6. Both are right wing tactics |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 03:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. OK you hit on something. Is there a difference between |
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KaraokeKarlton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 03:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. It wouldn't be charity or volunteering if it was mandatory |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 03:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. How do you see it as different from making the bookshelf? |
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KaraokeKarlton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 04:07 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Simple |
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sistersofmercy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 04:16 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Failure in US history is |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 04:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. As usual, I think sistersofmercy has said it better and with fewer words |
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sistersofmercy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 04:46 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Thanks DF! |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 04:55 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Good for you! And 4 words to help you out - Cat in the Hat |
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sistersofmercy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 08:01 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. hey |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 08:07 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Good thinking! Since one set will surely get lost before winter is over |
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sistersofmercy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 08:13 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Thing is it's been pretty cold here the last few days |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 08:24 PM Response to Reply #21 |
52. Because planting flowers in front of a city hall is cheap labor |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 09:06 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. OK use another example. I picked that one because |
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sistersofmercy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 04:01 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. I don't understand this |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 04:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
42. I agree with that assessment |
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sistersofmercy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
7. It's simply a separate issue not valid in the debate |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 03:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. They are the same |
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Beaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 03:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. slavery? hardly. |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 03:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Well, you could say that the slaves could forego their lives |
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KaraokeKarlton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 04:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. You're kind of offending me |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 04:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. I'm sure you don't mean to offend those who may not be as gifted as you |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 04:34 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. The Oprah mantra |
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KaraokeKarlton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 07:03 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. Stop it. |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 07:48 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. LOL sorry, I don't support any of the candidates |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 04:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
38. Look at the aspect. |
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sistersofmercy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 03:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Not the same, separate issues. |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 04:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
39. Not. |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
14. I thought community service was already a presequite for graduation |
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sistersofmercy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 03:49 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. JK I believe many schools have implemented community service |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 03:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I am not for sure being I am only a junior |
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sistersofmercy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 03:55 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Most likely you will |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 03:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. yeah |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
20. I disagree with forced community service |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 03:57 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Then she is doing community service! Why not |
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KaraokeKarlton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 04:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. It's not up to the federal government to decide what does or doesn't |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 04:54 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. The federal government has nothing to do with it |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 08:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
53. Well yes she is doing it |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 09:17 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. I don't think we disagree too much on this :) |
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KaraokeKarlton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 04:11 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Exactly, Julie! |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 08:31 PM Response to Reply #29 |
54. Part of it is setting the pace |
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ret5hd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
25. Is it required of those graduating from private schools? |
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sistersofmercy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 04:15 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Speaking for my area, yes private schools here all have a community |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
34. As someone who has directed volunteers |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 04:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. Exactly |
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VT70 (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
48. Another Kerry bashing thread |
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KaraokeKarlton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 08:18 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Kerry hadn't even been mentioned once on this thread |
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reknewcomer (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
55. Nobody that is not able to work should not be forced to work. |
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littlejoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-03 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
56. I blame everything on Jerry Springer. |
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