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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 12:57 AM
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On what one issue do you think chimp is most vulnerable, but the Dems...
have not used it yet? I think it's the military draft. Many of the middle class have made it clear that they really don't give a crap about anybody else. They vote only for their own selfish reasons. Tell a parent who thinks Bush is doing a good job that if Bush wins next year, he'll expand his war to other countries. With our military already stretched too thin, he'll need to stop asking for volunteers and start forcing kids to go fight his war. Let them know that Bush has begun starting up the draft boards. Also tell them that the loopholes of the past might be closed (college, Canada, etc.) After you tell them this, then watch their eyes get bigger as they blankly stare into space. If you tell them to vote Dem because it's good for poor people, or black people, or some unemployed losers, they won't hear you. But if you tell them Bush might get their kids killed, you'll get their attention. It's about time the Dems started using fear as a political tool like the right has done for years. Let people truly contemplate what horrors we might face if the chimp wins.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 01:00 AM
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1. pre - 9-11 blundering
I can understand why Dems in Oct 2001, didn't call for Bush's head on a platter, but now they have the evidence and the emotional seperation to do so.

Even if Bush had no idea and all the conspiracies are hooey, he STILL reduced anti-terrorism efforts and ignored intelligence data from our allies before 9-11 and that's bad enough to get middle of the road voters to turn against him if we articulate it in a simple but explanitory way.
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 01:17 AM
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8. I agree..
This is big also, and it's along the same lines: Four more years of Bush could get you killed. I think it's great that some dumbass wingers keep talking about Dean's comment about 9/11. Keep it in the news long enough, and eventually somebody in the media might actually decide to be a real journalist instead of a White House stenographer and try to find out if there's any validity to the theory Dean commented on.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 01:01 AM
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2. Check LBN...
Congress pushes for larger military
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 01:03 AM
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3. too bad the only draft legislation to date
has been written by a democrat .. Charlie Rangel.

I can tell you from personal experience, most of these people think their own family members would be giving their lives for a "worthy cause". Only when we show that it is a WORTHLESS cause ($$$ for ushya's pockets) will they ever care about that.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 01:06 AM
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4. Free trade/globalization
n/t
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 01:08 AM
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5. nuclear weapons
The idea of starting up the nuclear arms race hasn't been laid out in sufficient detail for the people.

I'd love to see MoveOn put out a commercial like the one the Dems did against Goldwater back in the 60's. Hammer him over the head with it.

Then, the draft.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 01:11 AM
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6. Great idea..
Once these parents start seeing these ads, there will be a bunch of unhappy parents..Then watch the increase of recruiters at the high schools and colleges trying to BS the kids into a "free" college education, which they'll NEVER see!
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 01:24 AM
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9. I live in Manhattan, where in the back of our minds we all live...
with the fear of a major terrorist attack. I have two sons, 13 and 11, and for me a much bigger fear is that when my oldest son turns eighteen in 2008, we will be in the middle of World War F***ing Three and Bush will take my kid to send him halfway across the world to kill and be killed for Halliburton.
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 01:15 AM
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7. Selling out america by
outsourcing jobs via nafta wto ftaa. Now the rich folk have to worry about it since their computer jobs are even going to india.lib dems greens and even conservatives dont like theese screw jobs
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 01:48 AM
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10. KICK n/t
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