The "Stepford" Democrats.

[greatauntoftriplets]

Where is the Democrats' fire? Why have they become so tame -- apart from a few exceptions like Senator Robert Byrd? Why is there so little partisanship?

* gives fire-breathing speeches that mesmerize too many Americans; the Democrats lack passion for their message.

Why do you think this is happening?

[Terwilliger]

1. hey auntie

Why is there so little partisanship?

good question!

OnEdit: adding...

` ` What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label "Liberal?" If by "Liberal" they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then the record of this party and its members demonstrate that we are not that kind of "Liberal." But if by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal."

John Fitzgerald Kennedy ' '

--from Buzzflash

[indigo32]

16. Thats Beautiful Ter

absolutely Beautiful

[Tripper11]

2. Firstly, I think the term "Stepford" belongs to republicans....

because they don't falter from the partly line.
The way I see it, from here at DU and speaking with other left leaning/progressives, we all generally have the same ideas of how we would like things to go, what happens is we tend to dig a little deeper and argue the finer points which makes it look like we can't agree on anything.
With the republican/right wing they have a very simple basic agenda and they stick to it like glue...if they stray they are chastized, belittled or ridiculed back into the fold and they are either too stupid or "brainwashed" to think for themselves.

[quilp]

3. The Dems still believe that reason alone will prevail.

It won't. It hasn't. How much has reason contributed to the success of the Republicans.

[The Lone Liberal]

4. There are few that can give a "stem-winding" speech anymore

we, Americans, expect important issues to be delivered in 30 sec sound bites. How many of us would stand listening for 3 days as an issue was debated like our forefathers did at the Lincoln-Douglas debates.

[bpilgrim]

5. i think the simplist explaination is... they are 'onboard' with most

of the agenda, read corp agenda.

let's not kid ourselves anymore.

after everything we have witnessed in the past 3 years coupled with everything we have researched about americas history at least since post wwII i would say that it is pretty plain that our society is run for the benifit of the elite at the expense of everyone and everything else.

now the real question is how to we can them to start REFELECTING our, we the peoples views? - and i don't wanna here no crap about i don't seak for the people, i am talking about well known polls and basic socio-economic indicators that demonstrate the SHAFT we the people are getting and have been getting by the elite which has simply accelerated since we 'won' the 'cold war'.

now we are on to fighting the shadowy terrorist. who now have us supposedly more afraid then when the mighty russian bear, armed to the fangs with icbms, built for only one payload FIRE and BRIMSTONE, all aimed at our cities on a hair trigger alert, with the promise of instant vaporization via are mutual policy of MAD.

we now have to fear the randomness of a shadowy terror group living in caves thousands of miles away who may break into or by other means aquire the means to unleash hell on one or more of our or our allies cities.

seems to me that logic would indicate the urgency then to begin a MASSIVE WMD dissarmament program accross the globe and a commintment from everyone to do away with such evil weapons.

but no of course that will never happen, and that leaves us with our current choice to race headlong into the art of war and hate and wait for our number to come up.

sorry for being so long winded and rambling, but you know it gets frustrating looking at the same old movie ;-)

:hi:

peace

[bunnyhop]

6. Tom daschle motto - Gentlemen don't make personal attacks

Along with the issues, we should also be attacking this regime personally. Go after bush and cheney for their DUI convictions and how they avoided military service. Go after laura bush for that ex boy friend she murdered and was never held responsible for. Go after limbaugh for that buttboils excuse he used to stay out of the military. The media would gobble these stories up if the dems would mention them. The media loves dirt and gossip but the stupid dems won't play that game.

[opihimoimoi]

7. Thanks to places like the DU, the Dem Party is undergoing an awakening.

The Campaign staffs are starting to come here to find nuggets of information/talking points/strategies/etc.

This is the place of cutting edge ideas/notions

The Pub lurkers know this too

they come to dilute with shit

But the nugget of a good idea, that has deep roots, and will survive the Pub Attacks.

[calimary]

22. Really? That would be good news if they did.

Because there ARE great ideas here and they should be put to use. They just might win some elections.

[Eloriel]

11. Why go there if it's not necessary?

There's ample ammunition on policy and issues. That's where we need to go. Look, Americans didn't LIKE it when the Repugs went after Clinton personally. They wouldn't like it from us any better.

Eloriel

[bunnyhop]

13. BS - Americans loved it when the pugs went after clinton

Where were you in the 90s? And the personal attacks we can launch against the repugs are a lot more serious than clinton having a girlfriend. People love gossip and dirt and so does the media. Your attitude of "issues only" is suicide in politics.

[ThorsteinVeblen]

19. Attacking Clinton

Didn't hurt the Republicans whatsoever. Impeaching Clinton didn't hurt the Republicans at all. They won the next two elections and have destroyed the Democratic Party.

Democratic Party needs to take the gloves off. No more gentleman bullshit. Hit first, hit hard and keep on hitting until they don't get up. Period.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. I Don't Like Chimpy.... Not At All......

but if we bash Laura Bush for a traffic accident that happened forty years ago we will incur the justified ire of the American people.

[berry]

21. Maybe during the runup to selection 2000, some of this dirt

should have been pitched.... But NOW, when so many more serious crimes have been committed, you suggest that going after ancient crimes with no global repercussions would be a good idea??!! You know what the Repukes would say--the Dems are desperate if they have to dig up all that old stuff, but there's nothing current that they can complain about (which is bullshit, but that's what they'd say).

We are talking about HUGE crimes, malfeasance, lies and coverups, and you want us to return to gossip? That just doesn't make sense.

[ShaneGR]

8. ar15.com

Go back

[bpilgrim]

9. ???

what r u talking about?

peace

[whoYaCallinAlib]

10. ??????

Simple third grade English needed here.

[Terwilliger]

20. sgr doesn't like dissent

it's un-Democratic :eyes:

[Cocoa]

12. where've you been?

did you miss the whole Pete Stark/Bill Thomas thing?

The dems were righteous, and they made Thomas pretend to cry. :-)

[greatauntoftriplets]

15. Well, since it apparently was reported on the cable networks

and I don't have cable, that one story did not make it to millions of us out here. Nor was it in the two Chicago daily newspapers that I read.

The main point, however, is that the Stark/Thomas thing was just one drop in what should be a steady flow into the bucket. And the story was ancient news one week later.

[Dr. Mullion Blasto]

14. But that is why I love Dean - "fire in the belly" +

This guy is electrifying, even when he walks into a room - the electricity in the air is palpable. The only thing I have seen to rival it was the old JFK rallies of the 1960's.

[diamond14]

17. no need to say anything...just watch in amazement as shrub

"dignifies" the White House by dragging out the bloody and bloated human heads of his trophy killings on world-wide TV....a lot of Americans are majorly woken up by that "dignity"...and the 5 American Soldiers killed each day since then...it just is one of those political self-destructions that is so spectacular, there's not any need at all to speak-out...just stand back so you don't get hit by shrub's crumbling stack of cards....

every single day, shrub and his minions are fueling the fires of their own demise...the 'seamless merging' of their 9/11 cover-up, their major intelligence failures, their admission of Iraq lies to take our Nation to WAR....it's really totally amazing...sort of like a self-immolation....the whole time, the economy collapsing all around us...and our young soldiers dying everyday in a slow-moving Vietnam-carnage...