DO REPUGS REALLY THINK WE REJOICE AT THE DEATHS OF SOLDIERS???

[Skittles]

That is UNBELIEVABLY OFFENSIVE. May I remind these people WE DID NOT WANT THIS WAR because we KNEW BUSH INC. was LYING about the reasons to invade and we feared just what we are seeing now. When we read about soldier casualties we do not feel JOY; what we feel is OVERWHELMING ANGER AND SADNESS AND FRUSTRATION that this is happening.

I'll confess I don't know what the answer to terrorism is but INVADING AND OCCUPYING IRAQ IS NOT IT.

[KG]

1. the repooks are shameless

the will say anything to justify their immoral actions.

remember when they used to accuse liberals of 'situational ethics'?

[union_maid]

2. Yes, some of them do

But then they like to say that questioning this war means you're a Saddam sympathizer, an appeaser, you love terrorist and you want the US to be weak. Oh, and of course you hate this country, etc, etc..so, of course we're going to celebrate every death. I don't think their rhetoric is resonating much anymore, though, except in their own inbred little circles.

[Pepperbelly]

3. Friend Skittles ...

For me, I am struggling against these good people just becoming numbers to me. I think we all have to guard against that. Each one of these deaths represents the death of a human being. Each represents the death of a set of values, of experience, of family, of a friend, of a set of hopes and dreams.

Each represents a potential. Each is a soverign, sentient being.

:-(

[Skittles]

8. I read in another thread

that 15 soldiers have been killed in the past week. It just took my breath away and for a minute I had my head in my hands. To think anyone could believe I'm enjoying this as a political tool makes me feel sick.

[pearl]

4. Thank You!

Yes I find this accusation from these pigs particularly
offensive too. To be honest, I feel like a kick in the
gut each time I hear about another death. We are engaged
in a vicious civil war. and these daily assaults are designed
to wear us down. But We will not dissappoint history.
We must throw these Pigs out as an example to the rest of
the world, the American people can not tolerate this.
Fight On, Fight On.

[LizW]

5. They don't have to believe it to say it

Remember, perception is everything. It has been a Repub talking point since the war started that the Democrats are rooting for U.S. failure in Iraq. They also claim that we are happy about bad economic news (because it hurts Bush*'s re-selection chances), and that we are hoping for more deaths in Iraq and Afganistan so we can claim we were "right" about the war.

All common sense says these claims are not true, but if the Repubs go on tv and say it over and over (George Will, for instance, NEVER goes on the air without saying it at least once), it becomes a perception that is as good as truth.

[LiberalLibra]

6. Of course they don't really believe it, BUT..............

....it sure sounds good to the masses who will believe anything for a supposed tax cut.

[Mal]

7. Yes, Republicans TAKE NOTE !

I am neither a democrat, nor even an American.

[bushisanidiot]

9. They Also Believe 'God' Is a Republican

and dems are pure evil. I'm really surprised they don't try to just pass a law banning the democratic party altogether.

[Skittles]

10. honestly, with their embrace of pure fascism

it's not out of the realm of possibility in their dreams.

[rasputin1952]

18. The 'pick and choose' religious aspect of the GOP...

certainly believes God is a republican. How else to exonerate themselves from this catastrophe. If it fails, they'll blame God.

They allude to the Old Testament God of intervention. Rather than read the whole Book, they pick out the pieces they need to justify thier actions.

There is nothing these people do that is written in the New Tetament, yet they call themselves Christian.

Of all of the 'sins' mentioned in the Bible, I believe that hypocrisy is cited more than any, and this will not bode well for them.

[Ress1]

11. They can't help themselves.

Their inner McCarthyism can't be controlled.

[rasputin1952]

12. I know of very few who have been to war...

that want more of it. The situation we have now is different however.

The current administration is comprised of Chickenhawks that appear to have grown up watching Hollywood's version of war. Everything would be over in 2 hours, and the servicemembers would arrive home to an elated populace filled with adoration. Powell, the only one with combat experience in this admin, was the lone voice of reason long ago.

As has this been hashed over in a billion different conversations since this operation began, I still hold to my first opinion of this war.

1. It was for control of the oil fields.

2. Regardless of how many die, this will be a long drawn out operation.

3. bush relishes power, and will do anything to attain and keep that power, especially when the means is bloody.

This unjustified military action, will haunt this admin far after the next election; this is bush's Waterloo. Of all the military operations this nation has ever entered into, this was so poorly planned, it is doomed to failure from the start.

Those who come home in flag draped coffins, are merely being used as pawns elevated to the status of martyr by this administration. We are told they are dying for freedom...but that line wears thin. We are told they are dying for for 'human rights', even as we lose our freedoms here at home.

The only ones who have any delight in this sacrifice, are those that sent our young men and women into harms way. Something they avoided when they had the chance.

The cynicism is easy to spot, and with the media finally rising to the task, this admin is history.

This is no time to sit down and be complacent...we must keep the pressure on to bring our troops home; even though that option has now become precarious.

[Touchdown]

13. Oh' yeah they believe it!

You parrot your guru's rhetoric enough, and you'll start to believe in it yourself. Habitual liars ofen learn to believe their own lies eventually.

It pisses me off to no end.:grr:

[DemLikr]

14. This is crap they say to each other in their own little echo chambers...

...I don't think it carries any weight with folks whose minds still operate in any sort of information-access zone.

[markses]

29. In their own echo chambers?

There are plenty of DUers who make the very same claim on these very boards. I think the moderators should consider it a PERSONAL ATTACK to accuse somebody of enjoying this nightmare.

Calling somebody an asshole is a personal attack, but saying "You enjoy all these deaths, and consider them politically promising" is NOT a personal attack? That makes no sense to me.

[pansypoo53219]

15. more gingrichism

the way aWol tWit is going, he will soon surpass the death toll of soldiers who have died playing war since the beginning of Bosnia, which is standing about 334. why do i know this? I kept track because of all those nellies all in an uproar when Clintone sent troops in. and a grand total of 3, yes THREE died in the bosnia action. and a grand total of 9, NINE died in Kosovo.
so, it is such a relief to the armed services that they have a moral reptilican in office.

[GCP]

28. "Reptilican" - LOL, I love it

I'll start using it if that's OK with you!

[The Lone Liberal]

16. The right is fostering that thought with public

C-span this morning had a caller that said as much, the liberals hated the service men and women. We need to take care to remember these are people who died when we talk of the numbers,




http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=87184&mesg_id=87184&page=

[Ivory_Tower]

17. Some think we do

but I doubt the "mainstram" Republicans think that (at least I hope that's the case).

I knew a guy who thought I sponsored terrorism because I don't support Shrub's policies. We don't talk much these days.

[buddhamama]

19. they're playing dirty political games

the PR smear campaign.

don't look behind this curtain-look over there-at those liberals who are smug(re:i told you so) about these soldiers deaths.

except they don't want to admit we told them so, because that would mean we were right for not wanting to go to war based on lies.

so they try and discredit so no one will listen to us.

[imax2268]

20. I have been called

everyname in the book...before the last message boards I used to belong to was over run by the rethugs...many of us spoke out against the war...
We were called commies, un-americans, saddam lovers...etc...etc...
I have been told to take my ass to Iraq if I didn't like the way things are going here...

So...I don't care what the Rethugs say anymore...they are a bunch of brainless panzies who don't have an original thought in their tiny little brains...

just a bunch of brainless forward looking people...HEY WAKE UP AND TAKE OFF THE BLINDERS...!

[imax2268]

23. sorry...

my evil twin took over...

[leftyandproud]

21. hate to say it...

but I have seen a SMALL, SMALL minority here on DU...several months ago, who acted as if they wouldn't mind if things went bad in Iraq..if we lost a lot of our boys in the operation--because it would make dumbya look bad and kill his chances for re-election. I realize the vast majority of us aren't even this partisan, but the 1-2 kooks who post stuff like this give the pukes ammo to make the charge against the entire party...it's unfortunate.

[jagguy]

22. it wasn't that small

there is a strange paradox here. Noone likes to see people dieing but yet we seem to want out or Iraq and failure for Bush.

Either way people will die.

If we're not in Iraq, its just Iraqis dieing. I guess those deaths are less of an issue.

I can't explain it.

I suspect it comes about from the "intellectual elitism" that i saw come up on another post this morning.

[Skittles]

33. INTELLECTUAL ELITISM??????

WTF???? THAT'S AN RNC PROPAGANDA CODE PHRASE. I can see YOU buy into it.

[never cry wolf]

31. as much as i hate to admit it....

i do get a wisp of satisfaction or "i told ya so" building up. for so many months i was a lone voice knowing the lies amongst my peers and realizing what these criminals were getting us into and that our brave soldiers would spill blood in the name of hypocracy. i am a pacifist and do not relish any death and respect all life. but if things HAD gone as rosy as the repugs had stated our troops may have already gone into iran or syria by now with the sheep blindly cheering them on. maybe the way i look at it, if this war could not be stopped at least the way it is going may prevent further inroads of their policy because the public will not stand for action elsewhere until this is cleared up and some explanations are made.

in addition i do believe that this ill advised and illegal war may be what is needed to bring down the neo-cons once and for all. please see this article that was linked on buzzflash this morning: http://www.sacbee.com/content/opinion/story/7112547p-8060159c.html

[Corgigal]

24. It's not my fault

That the republicans selected their idiot and are now self destructing. I knew the minute Bush was given honorary President that a war would start because his backer make money off of some damn war somewhere. All I can say, is that I have no blood on my hands and instead of thinking Dems gloat why don't we see Republicans being ashamed of themselves.

[leesa]

25. No they don't believe it but then they don't believe most of the lies

they spread as gospel truth.

[angka]

26. goes along with their treason arguments

they want to portray us as people who actually sympathize and identify with 'the enemy.' that's why they make ludicrous and offensive statements like this. then, the next time they're driving by a protest, they can imagine all those people they see as enemies, too. they probably hear us talk, and think it sounds like 'gook.'

[bunnyhop]

27. Repugs rejoiced over 9-11

That's what we need to remind people. No one got more good out of 9-11 than bushie.

[Astarho]

30. yes they do

Some rejoice at the Iraqi death and most write it off as Collateral Damage. because we are the "enemy" we must hate the things they love and vice versa, therefore we must rejoice when US troops are killed.

There you go, Republican logic.

[blm]

32. Unfortunately...YES.

.

[dbt]

34. The Repugs believe whatever the media TELLS them to believe!

Especially the Talk Radio Demons of the media.

:grr:
dbt
(I'm so old I remember Journalism!)

[Chicagonian]

35. Well, if the soldiers in question are Bush voters...

let's just say- it doesn't tear at the heart-strings quite as much.

[Skittles]

37. that's a terrible thing to say

they don't deserve to be killed because they didn't know the truth about Bush Inc.

[gulliver]

36. Do Repubs want deaths underreported to protect Bush?

That's the flip side of this in my opinion.

There are virtually no Dems who are rooting for troops to die, IMO. But I think there are probably a lot of Repubs, especially the blind Bushbots, who wish the press would just stop reporting troop casualties until the election is over.

Those on the Republican side who still haven't at least begun to see the Fraud Administration by this time are likely to make ugly accusations like the one you are talking about. It's part of their general problem with sticking to the facts and doing what's best for the country.

The "blind love" Bush diehards protect Bush no matter what he does. If it means accusing Dems (many of whom have soldiers in their families) of rejoicing in the deaths of the troops, then the Bushbots will go right there.

William Pitt had a piece earlier this week where he quoted Rush Limbaugh as wondering aloud why we report troop deaths when people die every day from disease anyway. The "Rush is Right" crowd need to take a look in the mirror.