OK who won?

[xultar]

An after the debate poll, Ted was right they are good when they are angry!

I love my brother Al.

[robsul82]

1. This is a dupe, but eh.

Voted DK. The media stuff was awesome. #999, oooooooh.

Later.

RJS

[SCliberal73]

2. Dean carried it

Dean's late debate corrective - refocusing on social issues was spot on - was a good strong finish.

[xultar]

7. What are you smokin?!? n/t

[Rainbowreflect]

3. I voted for Kucinish,

but Sharpton was awesome as well.

[Jerseycoa]

4. Kucinich

All the way.

[xultar]

5. You guys know I love Clark. But Kucinich won tonight he was ON

FIRE!
GO DENNIS GO! Dennis is my number 2 and Kerry has moved up to tie with Dennis!

WC
DK - JK!!!

[slinkerwink]

16. I agree with you----Kucinich won it!

[xultar]

43. Wow, did you see, we agree on something again...kewl n/t

[_NorCal_D_]

6. In all fairness,

I thought that Kucinich did particularly well in this debate. B-)

[HereSince1628]

8. Democrats first, media second, Bush dead last.

I missed the last debate, and I liked what I encountered tonite. The candidates seemed energized and earnest. In general, I liked them all more than I did a couple of months ago.

[Jackhammer Jesus]

9. Kucinich was great!

Definitely #1 in my book. Sharpton was also good.

Clark, Kerry, and Dean also did very well.

[Closer]

10. Nevermind this poll

just wanted to drop a gift in here for folks.

[Terwilliger]

11. wow, that's really coarse

and uncalled for

[mitchum]

14. never stopped him before

[Deja Q]

13. Well, let me find a shovel to go with that...

I'll still vote for Dean, what the hell, as a slower death is better than a fast one I suppose...

[_NorCal_D_]

A gift?

Oh I see. Ah, I always love a smug, pompous gloater.... :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

[OhioStateProgressive]

40. more like an over fibrous floater(nt)

[TrueAmerican]

12. It obvious the Deanites are spamming this poll

No way he won this debate.

[Padraig18]

25. Obvious?

How is it 'obvious'? :eyes:

[Rowdyboy]

15. Kucinich and Kerry ROCKED!

They both took it to Koppel. Also, Sharpton's closing quip about SNl ratings versus Nightline was perfect. All the guys did beautifully, at least occasionally.

[Eric J in MN]

17. I voted for Kerry because his style was good.

Previously, Kerry as spoken in slow, high-falutin tones, but tonight he spoke quickly in a plain style which was great.

If he had this style all along, perhaps he'd be the front-runner.

[ozone_man]

28. I liked what he had to say,

except that he did not seem to follow directions by Koppel in commenting about something good about Dean. Did I misinterpret? If I heard the question corrrectly, then that's pretty rude. Anyway, he had very good answers for everything else.

Heck, they were all good tonight.

[Eric J in MN]

42. yes, Kerry wouldn't say what Dean does right (nt)

nt

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

18. Kerry

I'm a very ardent Clark supporter, but Kerry gave the best performance tonight. Kerry was very eloquent and poised. Clark did well but I think he blew it on the question regarding whether security is more important or domestic policies. Kucinich made the point when he said they are related (i.e. the poor economy is being affected by the money pit in Iraq), a point I have heard Clark make several times before but did not make tonight. Dean looked a little too laid back and seemed to be coasting, maybe not willing to say anything controversial at this point now that things are going his way. Kucinich was animated, but his plan for bringing the troops home and putting the UN into Iraq is very vague and isn't very realistic (although I admire his pre-war position). Once again, the questions were terrible and weren't intended to bring out a real discussion of the issues.

[JNelson6563]

19. I thought all did pretty well

except of course Joe.

I loved how often I heard "I agree with <insert other candidate's name here>".

We were well represented tonight. We should all be proud. Minus Joe I had at least a moment of pride regarding each and every one.

Rock on Dems!!!

Julie

[KittyWampus]

20. Dennis K. Owned The Debate

[drfemoe]

21. They all won

because they set the agenda despite the moderator's intention of focusing on " That Democratic Divide " ..

[Jonathan Fox]

22. Winner is Clark, Kucinich also good

I'm pleased with my impression that Clark honestly won the debate. He did very well on all questions. Dean's point about domestic issues being important and the focus on Iraq could have shot him down, but the host pointed out that was an exaggeration. Lieberman and Kucinich's closing statements came right after Clark, and their assertion that Iraq and national security were critical played right into Clark's lap, given his victory in my eyes over the second half, the long discussion of Iraq. I couldn't see how he could respond well and stand out, be he continued to surprise me.

Kucinich also did very well. He presented his ideas clearly and made himself stand out. However, I don't think he demonstrated that his ideas were the right ideas as well as Clark did.

Dean did alright, but he wasn't in the top bracket.

Kerry handled the questions thrown at him early on very well, but other than that, I think he slid into the pack.

Lieberman seemed a little enfranchised to me, he was noticable but didn't really shine.

Gephart and Edwards didn't make a big impression on me.

Sharpton and CMB were, you know, themselves.

[_NorCal_D_]

23. Welcome to DU!

:hi: B-)

[Jonathan Fox]

24. Thank you! *bows* (nt)

[ScreamingMeemie]

26. Honest opinion? Nobody. They all lost on that first question.

I am very disappointed in them all. :shrug:

[Eloriel]

31. There wer e some really sorry responses to that first question

And I was ashamed of some of them.

[Jonathan Fox]

34. Agreed (nt)

[Auntie Bush]

38. They were all great with that lousy question

You're too grumpy!

[mzmolly]

27. KUCINICH?

He's naive as he-- on foreign policy.

Yes, the UN would love to take over Iraq :eyes: :crazy:

[Jonathan Fox]

30. Yeah...

He did good, but that problem was the reason he lost and Clark won in my eyes. Clark exuded an air of knowing what he was talking about on that whole line of questions.

[Terwilliger]

54. wow...what a concept...the UN fulfilling its purpose

yeah, how naive is that?! :eyes:

[John_Shadows_1]

29. What channel was it on?

n/t

[Jonathan Fox]

32. I watched online on C-Span (nt)

[ComerPerro]

33. I was really impressed with Edwards tonight

As well as Sharpton and Kucinich.

[ErasureAcer]

35. Kucinich did an excellent job showing what a unique candidate he is...

This was definitely his best debate.

I think he won over some people to his campaign tonight.

And he is right. 4.5 million dollars raised is no small change. Consider that near 9 million when you consider matching funds because he is being funded by the PUBLIC only.

Kucinich will catch a fire. I still think he is being short changed in polls(Greens and Independents and minor party supporters are going to back him in the caucuses/primaries and therefore he is doing a lot better than his current poll results in face of little to no media attention).

When he finishes in the Top 3 in Iowa, his campaign will really catch fire.

www.kucinich.us

[Red_Storm]

36. Kucinich was great but Kerry was outstanding too......n/t

[chaska]

37. My two.

Dean (honestly) made a few flubs. Did not rise to expectations. Definitely seen him better.

Kerry did well. One bad answer. But strong overall.

Clark gave a couple of really excellent answers. Good overall. Excellent in the spin room afterwards - very strong there.

Kucinich did very well. Definitely the best I've seen him. I'd have to give the night to him.

The rest were about at their usual standard.

[arewethereyet]

39. oh my what a surprize, ratios of voting remain unchanged

don't you notice this ?

It sure would be nice, just once, for people to respond objectively.

[kodi]

41. clark, kerry, kucinich, lieberman in that order

clark made what was the most important assessment of the 2004 general campaign when he pointed out that while domestic issues are important, the GOP will be attacking the eventual democratic candidate on foreign policy issues, and have already begun to do so. he then went on to articulate how he would confront the GOP on this issue.

kerry was articulate and impressive. best performance yet, and acted like a both a real person and gentleman

kucinich was very good presenting his core message about social issues, and in pointing out the attempts by the media via ted koppel to discuss process instead of substance and issues is what has given us the current state of political debate in the country.

lieberman showed a great deal of class and articulated his positions very well.

dean, as the supposed favorite did as well as all but clark and kerry, but as the front runner has to distance himself from them better.

but and this is important, this campaign will be won not by personalities, but by organization strength. and dean has such a stronger campaign organization than the others that it will be hard for anyoone to catch him. but if he stumbles, clark, and kerry might catch him.

[PurityOfEssence]

44. Kucinich, just for rubbing Koppel's self-important nose in it

There was some serious electricity tonight, and that was long overdue. Perhaps as certain elements try to shut down the process before it even starts, more serious issues will break forth. It was good to have Sharpton call down Gore with the Tammany Hall reference, and it was great to see people give Koppel the comeuppance he's so richly deserved for so long.

[opstachuck]

45. democrats won

after that bullshit about the endorsement. thank you kucinich for sticking it to koppel. i'm a dean supporter but that was ridiculous. kerry won the debate. kucinich, you had me at hello, 2012

[oasis]

46. Kerry was his usual presidential self.

[Ediacara]

47. Kucinich LOST Lieberman LOST, Dean, Clark and Mosely Braun WON

Lieberman lost because he displayed unimaginable bitterness and pettiness, and well, he's an ass.

Kucinich lost because he's either totally stupid, or totally dishonest. He spent the whole night distorting Dean's plan for Iraq exit, and supporting the unworkable "US out UN in" plan which is, well, just plain stupid.

Clark, Dean, and Mosely Braun carried the day with well worded answers.

Kerry, Gephardt, Edwards, and Sharpton were there for decoration AFAIAC.

[codebled]

48. I didnt get to watch

does anyone know when a rerun will be aired...Eastern time

[Terwilliger]

52. go to C-SPAN schedule page

www.cspan.org

[Terwilliger]

51. distorted it how?

oh, and REALLY nice work calling Kucinich stupid :eyes:

Frankly, Kucinich has got it all over Dean.

[Guaranteed]

49. Personally, I thought Kucinich was ON FIRE tonight.

He beat the crap out of everyone. EVERYTHING he said was 100% true, and everyone up there knew it, too.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

50. Kucinich won, hands down

The most applause, and he was able to steer the debates back to the ISSUES everytime.

[Emboldened Chimp]

53. I gave Gephardt a pity vote

I really think Kucinich, Kerry and to an extent, Dean, performed well.

[Padraig18]

55. AMERICA won!

ALL of our candidates did VERY well, even Joe Lieberman (kinda). They all attacked Bush relentlessly and in plain language.

:hi: