Dean & Clark partisans: How deep is your animosity toward each other?

[Gringo]

I don't think it's really that bad, but...

The answers don't let you express your preference.

[Patriot_Spear]

NONE!

I like Clark- I prefer Dean!!!

[mrgorth]

4. Same here.

[everythingsxen]

1. I've made no secret..

that I support Clark, though I could really care less who takes the '04 election as long as it ain't Bush.

[Padraig18]

2. No animosity here.

I think Gen. Clark is a fine man and a fine candidate. I could support him without reservation, and will do so, if he is our nominee. :hi:

[deutsey]

3. I have no problems with Clark, personally

:shrug:

[kaitykaity]

5. None.

I want Dean as the #1, Clark as the #2. (I'm partial
to Clark on my avatar b/c I'm former military.)

[joeybee12]

6. I think the animosity expressed is usually just the heat of the moment

Face it, someone says something that ticks you off, you respond, and if you were talking with that person face-to-face, you know you'd respond differently. It's the anonymity of chat rooms that lets things get carried away once in a while.

Go ABB!!!!

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

7. I think Clark is great

I'd be happy to volunteer, donate $, and vote for him in a heartbeat if Dean doesn't get it. It wouldn't be an "ABB" vote either --- I sincerely like the guy.

[Padraig18]

8. So do I.

I hope CW goes out the window, and that one picks the other as VP! We need that ticket! :)

[LSdemocrat]

9. Clark's my second choice!

I think he'd make a great VP, Sec. of State, or Sec. of Defense.

I'll happily support him if he's the nominee.

[meow mix]

10. on board

with fingers crossed though. if bush is still around in 2005...omg.

[SahaleArm]

11. The stakes is high

Now's not the time to hold grudges.

[Gringo]

12. Heartening Results. Makes me proud to be a democrat.

Dean=Good
Clark=Good
Kerry=Good
Other Dems=Good

Bush=Stinkin' Dirty Rotten BAD.

[HuckleB]

13. I've got no problems with the candidates.

And I still want to know if those who won't support the Dem nominee if it's not their candidate are any different from Nader voters?

[deminflorida]

14. None, I'm onboard with Dean if he wins, but that's a big IF....

Note: Gore's endorsement has done nothing but stiffin my support for the General.

[ecstatic]

15. In past threads I have promised to vote Nader if Dean lost the nom.

due to negative tactics on the part of the Democrats. After reading the bitter comments from *some* Clark supporters who have promised to do the same thing, I now realize how utterly stupid I sounded.

I will fall in line with whichever Democrat wins the nomination. I hope most others will do the same.

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

23. Welcome aboard!

We all need you very badly, whoever the nominee is. I would be disappointed too if Dean doesn't get the nomination, but that disappointment is NOTHING compared to what I will feel if Bush gets re-elected. I'm glad we'll have you along.

[Jacobin]

16. I support Dean with contributions. If Clark is nominated I'll support him

My hope is that Clark will be his running mate. We'll see how it all shakes out.

ABBorL

[GainesT1958]

17. If Dr. Dean is the nominee...

I'll have absolutely NO qualms WHATSOEVER joining his flank in the battle against Dub...none. At all.

:kick:

B-)

[ramapo]

18. What is wrong here?

Why is this even a question? Why would I have any bitterness, anger, or animosity towards a supporter of Dean, Clark, or other Democrat running for the nomination?

The idea here is to not beat the s*it out of ourselves. It would be nice if each of our candidates just ran positive campaigns. You know like "Here is what I will do, these are my strengths, my plans, and BTW this is what I think Bush has done wrong. And if you want to know, I think the other Democrats running are all good candidates, would make fine Presidents, and I'll be happy to support whoever".

Sure that's a little naive but what a gift that would be to the voters. While we're at it, how about no negative ads too?

Save your anger, hate, bitterness, animosity, whatever for the Republican nominee. This war between supporters is tiring at best.

[Renew Deal]

19. My brothers and sisters.

I am ready to take down the Bush regime with honesty, hard work and facts.

[Clark_for_America]

20. Dean people are overly sensitive.

I think Dean is destined to lose with his tax policy. I cannot understand why Dean supporters do not realize this. NOBODY is capable of persuading middle class Americans to vote for a guy, who believes in raising in federal income taxes.

My friend makes $60K per year and has two kids. He is a tree-hugger if there ever was one. But he has already said that he won't vote for a guy who wants to take over $2,000 per year out of his pocket!

[LuLu550]

21. I support Clark because

I think he is the stronger candidate in the general election, but I love Dean's fire. I would happily support ANY dem over the unelected fraud.

[Pastiche423]

22. I will not support

nor vote for clark.

If he were to get the nom, I would know that my party has died.

[beyurslf]

40. Pastiche423

So you will support Bush? If you think Clark kills the party, why would want to help pound the nails in the coffin?

[Pastiche423]

42. Did I say I would support whistle ass?

I politely request you keep your fucking words out of my mouth.

I have always voted for Democrats, and I always will.

[PatGund]

50. Okay.....

You say you don't plan to vote for Clark, (and Clark *is* a registered Democrat, and is running under the Democratic Party banner, like him or not). But then you say "I have always voted for Democrats, and I always will." Logical impass here.

If Clark is the Democratic nominee, would you vote for him, even if you have to hold your nose doing it? Or would you vote for someone you see as being more of a Democrat, even if they're running as a independent or 3rd party choice?

If your choice for the nomination drops out and endorses Clark, or throws their support to Clark as the nominee at the convention, would you vote for him??

I'm not asking this to be mean or pick on you, but I'm really quite curious about what I see as a logical impass here.

[Shakespeare]

52. You eat with that mouth, too? So who will you vote for...

...if the nominee is Clark? If you won't vote for Clark, and you're not (technically) voting for Bush, I assume you'll be voting for a third-party candidate?

[DemExpat]

24. I'll vote for Dean, but not with the confidence and hope Clark's

candidacy gives me!

:kick:
DemEx

[ajacobson]

25. It's about Bush in the end--

in for a dime, in for a dollar.

Or in other words ABB.

There's some obnoxious people on this board that I really wouldn't want to meet in the rw but that has nothing to do with the candidates.

[truthspeaker]

26. I have no animosity at all towards Clark supporters

Clark is a serious, viable candidate with Democratic credentials. I prefer Dean. Other Democrats prefer Clark. This is something about which reasonable people can disagree.

I would probably have some animosity towards Lieberman supporters, but I've never met one.

[wryter2000]

27. Thanks, Gringo

Good poll!

[Melodybe]

35. I like everyone except Lieberman

People just look at the news today, they (the media) are deliberately flaming the fires between different dem. candidates. Why would they do such a thing? Because they are all owned by a small group of people that want *BUSH to win. They are terrified of any democrat willing to call them on their shit. When I watch the debates I don't only cheer when my guys says something good, I cheer when ANY of the Dems says something that is purposely not being covered by the media! Like Edwards and Kucinich talking about Diebold, or when Braun said the medicaid bill was a stuffed turkey, or when Gepthart called * a Misserable Failure, or when Kerry said that * fucked up, or when Sharpton said that any candidate on their worst day with no sleep was still ten times better than *Bush, or when Clark blasted *Bush for lying about the war. I LOVE ALL OF THE CANDIDATES NOT JUST DEAN! I would proudly campaign for any of them because ANY OF THEM ARE BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW!!!

[LuCifer]

36. I 2nd that!

ABB ALL THE WAY! Hell, I'd take Zell Miller over Bush at this point.

Lu

[JNelson6563]

28. I'm ABB in spite of

the lies that have been told to and about me by supporters of other candidates. Also will not let the all-out insults make me lose sight of the goal.

Julie

[jpgpenn]

29. I would have voted in your poll but

Your wording within the choices is way to over the top and doesn't reflect at all my reasons.

[BootinUp]

30. I'll be on board the Dean-titatnic

Seriously,

I'll vote for him, but I certainly won't be as excited about our chances.....

[meow mix]

46. Nearrr, farrr, wherEver you are!

lol yeah...
thats what ill be humming while voting dean =)

[robsul82]

31. Dean's #1, Clark's #2. No hatred.

Clark's cool.

Later.

RJS

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

32. If Clark goes for some sort of ABD/DLC push he may lose

my vote. Right now he's acceptable. But, if joins in some sort of cooperative attack with the Rose Garden Quislings against Dean, I'll be looking towards the Green option.

[mzmolly]

33. This Dean supporter will support the NOMINEE!

:kick:

[derby378]

34. Huh?

Just because I have a Dean bumper sticker on my car doesn't mean I don't admire Clark. Those two are my favorite candidates.

I'd be ecstatic with a Dean/Clark ticket. Or a Clark/Dean ticket. Whichever. Just as long as we keep our eyes on the prize - we gotta show King George the door in 2004.

[tinrobot]

37. Either is fine, now repeat after me...

Anybody but Bush...

Anybody but Bush...

Anybody but Bush...

[dae]

38. None, it's Clark 1st, ABB 2nd!

I like Dean, Edwards, and Kerry and wish them all the best of luck.

[Anaxamander]

39. No animosity here...

...and I'm actually still on the fence. I love Dean. I met him in person and he gave me a high-five. He's got balls and he's not afraid of a fight.

I love Clark. He's a brilliant man who inspires confidence and has the air of a true leader. I'd be happy with either or both men on the ticket.

[webkev]

41. Its all good

Clark Dean 04 Dean Clark 04 - Both have a nice ring :)

[robsul82]

51. Dean was such a pothead in college. Look at that hair.

*SNARF*

Later.

RJS

[jumptheshadow]

43. I really like the Dean supporters I know personally

We like each other, and agree on most things political.

I have really been amazed at some of the arrogance, snideness, hypocrisy and blinkered thought processes I have seen on this board. That's the Internet, though, the behavior is probably coming from people I would feel sorry for if I knew them personally.

[GOPBasher]

44. I want them on the same ticket, so

I guess the answer is none whatsoever. Clark/Dean -- the anti-Iraq war ticket.

[alphafemale]

45. Clark is Great!

He's my second favorite.

[Justice]

47. Good Winners and Good Losers

I teach my child as much about being a good winner as being a good loser.

What I have seen today on DU is lots of very bad winners (those happy about the endorsement by Gore). The animosity is partially due to that - it is not enough to be leading in the polls, or receiving endorsements - some Dean supporters are really very insulting (personally insulting) to supporters of other candidates, including Clark. I have no less than 5 times today said Gore's endorsement of Dean was fine IMO (I quibble with his stance that we should pull together when he then went on to criticize all the other candidates - sort of speaking with forked tongue a bit).

These supporters are banking on our ABB stance -- and I think to some extent abusing us because of that. Some people are really quite horrible.

I can be a good winner and a good loser. I hope others can do the same.

[sendero]

48. none that will last...

... for one thing I like Clark almost as much as I like Dean. But it is really sad to see all of the obvious bashing going on.

And no doubt I've participated, mostly in rebuttal to ridiculous shallow points that are sold as momentous. But, as of today I've decided to use the ignore feature. Anyone who starts an obvious bashing thread will not appear on my screen until the nomination is done.

I am looking forward to that day, because there is no doubt in my mind that all this rancor is doing nothing to further our real common cause. On the other hand, I think, and the poll results show, that most of use are going to get behind the Dem nom, no matter what.

[PatGund]

49. I'm a Clarkie....

.....but I don't have any problems with Dean. Heck, for that matter, none of the "Deanies" I know have any problems with Clark. And every other Clarkie I know likes Dean as well.

It's only here on DU that I've seen a lot of deep-seated hatred from both sides. People, remember ABBA - Anyone But Bush Again.

So far, the only disagreement I've had with my "Deanie" friends is if it should be "Clark/Dean in '04", or "Dean/Clark in '04" :-)

[grannylib]

53. Zero animosity; none at all.

[Sean Reynolds]

54. I love Clark.......but I LOVE Dean more!

If Clark wins the nomination I'll work my ass off to get him elected. When he wins, I'll CRY (good tears). But I still support the belief that Dean WILL win the nomination and send Bush back to Texas!

[usregimechange]

55. Can I ask the 11 who jumped ship to get back on board?

please!

[NoPasaran]

56. Dean, Clark, Kerry, Lieberman, a box of jello

Whoever we nominate has my support

[chookie]

57. I love Dean AND Clark AND their supporters.

Howard Dean
Wesley Clark

I will be proud to have either of them as our President. I think both of them can go toe to toe with the Bush Crime Family in what is going to be the most vicious campaign season ever in American history. I hope they're ready.

No animousity here at all.

I support all the candidates, although some I personally prefer to others, and I respect their views and their supporters. We have been offered a range of fine candidates -- anyone who says that there is no difference between the parties is very wrong.

My belief is that Bush deserves to be exposed as the incompetent scheming opportunistic creep that he is. I want to win in 2004, and in my heart, I think this is the way to go.

I wish everyone the very best of luck.

[_NorCal_D_]

58. I can vote

for Howie 'angry' Dean, but that doesn’t mean that I will support him. B-)

[Piperay]

59. I'll vote for

whoever gets the nomination, can't promise anything more than that.

[Zero Division]

60. Beating Bush and Democratic unity is my top priority

I have no animosity toward the vast majority of Dean supporters.

It's a shame that a noisy few who are devoted to smearing Dean or Clark have convinced so many that they are representative of all of Clark's or Dean's supporters.