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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 10:53 PM
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He will govern by divine intervention, GOP councilman-elect says
K****x’s father is the pastor at Faith Bible Church, and the councilman-elect spoke frequently of the fact that he plans to seek God’s counsel when making decisions for the town.

The Republicans ran together on a platform calling for increased development, for instance, and K****x’s said he expects God’s will to manifest itself in the specific types of developments that make themselves available to the town.
“Concerning residential development, I think right now the path that I’m choosing to take is directly attacking that, going for it, really pushing the residential development and seeing where God opens doors,” he said.

“If he opens doors toward a higher class market of residential development, we’ll go that direction. If he opens it for more of a middle class, we’ll go that direction.”



Found this in my local newspaper, but actual text not available online. How does reading these quotes make you feel? Is this an honest expression of faith or something else? Should our elected officials rely on divine inspiration for governance? Should they discuss it openly like this? Would a Democrat ever say anything like this?

These quotes raise so many questions in my mind and I'm sure you have more. It would be interesting to hear from both atheists and Christians on this as well as those you are somewhere in between.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:03 PM
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1. And if God opens the doors to the "lower class?"
Well, that won't happen, of course, to this councilman. After all, when was God's message ever directed to the poor, meek and dispirited? In George W. Bush's America, we have a New and Improved God - one whose message leaves no room for such lowly folks. The good councilman is one of Bush's minions who will surely see to that.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:04 PM
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2. No real name, no town, and no link?
Come on, gimmie something I can use.

How does it make me feel? This is thie kind of person I don't want anywhere NEAR me, let alone anywhere near my government. This person is obviously certifiably nuts. Lock him up, hand him a bible, and throw away the key.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:43 PM
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3. As an Atheist, all i can say is that i agree with Catch22dem n/t
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:44 PM
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4. Just trust me
It's real. I just have to be careful about certain things.

I could probably go with not letting him near my government, but you're not serious about locking him up, are you?
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:44 PM
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5. Politicians who
use God and Jesus for cover are the most un-Christian people on earth.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:47 PM
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6. Jesus
told me liberals were evil.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 12:10 AM
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7. But will God give him a good interest rate?
This is just insane.

Someone should point out that if he's making business decisions based on God's voice in his head, he's certifiable.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 12:13 AM
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8. He doesn't believe a word of it... says it to justify
whatever decisions he makes - then claims infallibility because he was doing what God indicated he should do. Sadly the fundies eat this stuff up.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 12:43 AM
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10. I'm really hoping the paper
gets some calls or LTE regarding this. But you're right. Far too many people will probably applaud this.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 12:16 AM
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9. What's wrong with that?
I govern by divine inspiration, and my people don't seem to mind. :silly:
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 09:21 AM
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11. What people?
The one's in your head.

Anyone else care to weigh in?
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 09:40 AM
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12. This is the typical belief system of a fundamentalist
..who believes he or she has a personal psychic hotline to god, and like a divining rod, god will point the correct direction for this or that action.

this, of course, allows the person to discount any advice or other consideration which does not match his or her culturally-influenced decisions...because they are, like the Bible, a literal translation of the word of God...

unless, of course, they aren't, in which case the person wasn't praying enough, or Satan interferred, or the failure of whatever it was was God's way of giving them a test and a way to grow.

in other words, no matter what, they can explain whatever they do by a closed belief system which discourages honest examination.

You know, of course, that women could not have the right to hold property, or the right to vote because god told the religious "right" that women should be subject to their husbands, and god told Paul that women were not supposed to preach, but since the sixties, women in this country in the south can hold property, and they got the right to vote before that, and they're still subject to their husbands, but that doesn't mean they can't have big hair and lots of mascara, but it's a mystery how this all changed.

you know, of course, that slavery was okay because god said so in the old testament, and slaves were from the tribe of Dan, and therefore god gave southerners permission to hold them as slaves...except that god and the government didn't agree, and then there was a war, and emancipation, and a long while later, few if any in the religious "right" would imagine that it's okay to hold slaves in America...but it's a mystery how this all changed.

You know, of course, that god told all the religious "right" that blacks and white were not supposed to mix because it was in the scriptures...but now it's okay, sort of, for them to mix, or at least co-exist, at least for some southerners, but it's a mystery how all that changes.

now, of course, god told all the religious "right" that homosexuals should not be recognized as adults with the right to choose a life partner. eventually god won't say that anymore, after enough of the religious rights' children live with their same sex partners, but its a mystery how that changes.

--hope that helped--



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