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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 10:47 PM
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AP: Kerry's Profanity Gets Bush's Attention
WASHINGTON - John Kerry used profane language to assess President Bush's Iraq policy, and Bush's chief of staff said Sunday the Democratic presidential candidate was out of line.

The Massachusetts senator uttered a profanity in an interview in the latest Rolling Stone magazine to express his dismay over Bush's handling of Iraq. The expletive drew a rebuke from White House, which suggested an apology might be in order.

"That's beneath John Kerry," the president's chief of staff, Andrew Card, said on CNN's Late Edition. "I'm very disappointed that he would use that kind of language," Card said. "I'm hoping that he's apologizing at least to himself, because that's not the John Kerry that I know."

The Kerry campaign said the Massachusetts senator had no regrets.

"John Kerry saw combat up close, and he doesn't mince words when it comes to politicians who put ideological recklessness ahead of American troops," said spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter. "I think the American people would rather Card and the rest of the White House staff spend more time on fixing Bush's flawed policy in Iraq than on Sen. Kerry's language."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031208/ap_on_el_pr/democrats_2004_22

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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 10:50 PM
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1. Go Kerry!
Looks like his little rolling stone stunt is gathering quite a bit of hype.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 10:51 PM
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3. as intended
maybe he can rally the youth to the rescue with this
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 10:51 PM
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2. Kerry just said F OFF! to Bush*
Well good for him
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 10:52 PM
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4. So what did he say!
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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 10:53 PM
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6. here's the quote…
"I voted for what I thought was best for the country. Did I expect Howard Dean to go off to the left and say, 'I'm against everything'? Sure. Did I expect George Bush to f - - - it up as badly as he did? I don't think anybody did," Kerry told the youth-oriented magazine.

http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/43544.htm
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:16 PM
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Well, actually, yeah, I thought he'd fuck it up as badly as he did.
Why is that so shocking?:shrug:
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 12:31 AM
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34. that's right, so, if even people at DU
can figure that out, it means that kerry is a f***ing moron!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 12:40 AM
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35. And Colin Powell, etc.?
You thought they'd piss all over the UN? You thought they'd put blatant lies in the SOTU? You thought they'd completely alienate the bulk of the world? You thought someone like Colin Powell would just roll over?

Hatred may have caused you to expect the worse. But people who have the responsibility of the entire world in their hands can't make decisions based on hatred. Nobody here KNEW shit, they just hated and let hatred be their guide. It's a coincidence that Bush fucked it all up so badly, not evidence of anybody's superior clairvoyant abilities. If people were that fucking smart, they'd be in the Senate.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 08:56 AM
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39. Based on what I saw Bush Co. do in Florida
Edited on Mon Dec-08-03 09:00 AM by deutsey
I was damn certain that they were going to lie, manipulate, distort and bully to get their way.

Here's something I wrote in April 2001, in which I drew comparisons between what happened in Florida and US-backed coups in Gautemala and Chile:

http://www.bartcop.com/coupsp.htm

This came later, but in February 2003 I gave my reasons for doubting what Powell was going to say to the UN:

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/02/03_Crank.html

Hatred was not making me lash out blindly at Bush Co.; all you have to do is watch with some vigilance what it is they're doing and you can deduce that what they do is rarely, if ever, truthful and for the common good.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:19 PM
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19. That's it?
Edited on Sun Dec-07-03 11:25 PM by deutsey
What's wrong with that? It reminds me of what Kurtz says in Apocalypse Now:

"They train young men to drop fire on people. But their commanders
won't allow them to write fuck on their airplanes because it's obscene!"

PS: Not to start a fight or anything, but I think a lot of us expected that Bush was going to fuck this up as badly as he did. I'm glad Dean went "off to the left" and expressed that for us.

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Mass_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 10:52 PM
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5. what exactly did he say?
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priller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 10:53 PM
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7. Bravo for not apologizing
Bush has made a few profane utterances at unguarded moments, so he has no room to speak. But, as we know, hypocrisy is the cornerstone of the GOP's foundation, so he will surely try to make an issue of it anyway.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:01 PM
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10. As luck would have it,
I saw the below on DU a little earlier, and had filed it away for future reference.

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"So, Kerry said the F word in a Rolling Stone interview. Dubya flashback:

Fuck Saddam. We're taking him out.
-George W. Bush, March 2002, as reported in Time.

You no-good fucking son of a bitch, I will never fucking forget what you wrote.
-George W. Bush, to journalist Al Hunt in front of his 4-year old daugher, 1987.

If the Bushies are making a stink about this, it's incumbent on any journalist who has heard, but not reported, our president saying a naughty word or two to report them for, as they say, "balance."

Of course, let's not forget:

"Pussy."
-George W . Bush, 1988, in response to a question about what he and his father are talking about when they're not talking politics.

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2003_12_07_atrios_archive.html#107084424583759642
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 12:02 AM
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29. AHHHHHHH! That's a great comeback.
I wonder what the excuse du jour will be? That * was "using" at the time?

We all need reminding occasionally what a fuckhead Bush is.
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dd123 Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 10:53 PM
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8. I'm not a Kerry fan, but it is pathetic what the guy has to do to
get some notice from the whore press.

I'm not offended at ALL that he correctly characterized Bush's misadventures in Iraq. Good for him.

John Kerry - speak your mind. If you had been doing this all along, you would be in much better shape.

Maybe Teresa is beginning to influence him more! I like her.

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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:13 PM
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15. Hadn't Thought of The Teresa Factor!!!
That is a definite possibility. The more he listens to her, the better. I am so glad that Kerry has dropped those D.C. insiders and has gone with people that let him trust his fighter's instincts.

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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:16 PM
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16. Teresa is conservative.
You know this right?

At least, I reckon reading that. I may be mistaken.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:24 PM
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21. Teresa on Pat Nixon
"She accomplished this, according to reporter John Tierney, by saying of Richard Nixon, ostensibly in the context of his marriage to Pat: "Well, we know Richard Nixon wasn't too much in contact with how women should be."

Teresa is Teresa! She is just a firehouse!!! She is mother, wife, independent business woman, philantrophist, earthy, international; all at the same time. I love her!

http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2003/05/14/teresa_heinz/index.html
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:28 PM
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23. Teresa Was A Principled Conservative Like Her First Husband
Sen. Heinz was a conservative, but he was a decent guy. And back in Pennsylvania, Teresa is popularly known as St. Teresa. She could have lived the life of a gangsta supa-star, but she has dedicated her life to helping out people that really need it.

Not to mention that she is REALLY F'N FUNNY. Her interviews are priceless!
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 10:57 PM
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9. EAT IT ANDY
Hey, Dubya, what'ya think of Adam Clymer?
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:01 PM
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11. But "BUSH" is the most offensive four letter word of all!
....so BUSH him!
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:04 PM
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12. Great. Kerry needs all the attention he can get
and the response was a great encore: 'Putting ideology ahead of soldiers' lives '. Indeed.
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:08 PM
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13. Someone needs to remind Andy Card that
his boss is a foul mouth low life.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:11 PM
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14. Didn't Card Say "You Don't Release A Product In August?"
Or something like that?
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JailBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:18 PM
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17. Bush = Hypocrite
HELLO! Are we forgetting the incident during Campaign 2000 when George W. Bush called a reporter a choice name? If memory serves me correctly, he called him an AS*HOLE.

And what are four- and seven-letter words compared to TREASON and MURDER, anyway. Is anyone here THINKING???
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:19 PM
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18. Trying to be ....
... more Dean than Dean! But kudos to Kerry for expressing some "anger". God knows it has no place in politics, yet this might be the one statement that gets Kerry some attention.

Go figure!
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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:20 PM
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20. Dean also invented cussing apparently
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:27 PM
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22. Yes,
by all means lets talk endlessly on TV and in print about Kerry's unspeakably coarse language and not discuss the piss poor intelligence and lies that led to war, the absence of WMDs, the environmental regulations being stripped to benefit big donors, Enron, Joseph Wilson and Valerie Plame, the documents stolen from the Dem members' Judiciary Committee computer...
We all know that the fate of the country rests upon the word "fuck" uttered by a pissed off politician. <sarcasm off>
It's so ridiculous - BREAKING NEWS: John Kerry uses a swear word in an interview. I mean c'mon get a grip. People cuss, BFD.
Our press is a pack of hyenas and whores. They should all be required to do internships at the BBC for a year.

:spank:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:32 PM
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24. Tons of more pressing shit to worry about than a damn swear word
Is the Prez so thin skinned? I was told he was a brave a courageous slug. I guess not.

More like Distraction to me.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:39 PM
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25. Fox News Changes The Title To "Andrew Card Blasts Kerry's Profanity"
Would anyone else describe this as a "blast?"

The expletive drew a rebuke from White House, which suggested an apology might be in order.

"That's beneath John Kerry," the president's chief of staff, Andrew Card, said in a televised interview.

"I'm very disappointed that he would use that kind of language," Card said. "I'm hoping that he's apologizing at least to himself, because that's not the John Kerry that I know."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,105097,00.html

I've had harsher blasts from my (expletive). C'mon Fox News, you're the only fair and balanced journalists out there. Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you, woo woo woo.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:40 PM
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26. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Bite me, Card! Junior f***ed up, no doubt about it!
Kerry's response was right on!
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:46 PM
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27. Seriously, That's The Phrase I Always Used With My Friends
But, then again, I'm from NJ.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 12:29 AM
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32. Well, then...
bite me!:evilgrin:
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-03 11:52 PM
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28. Someone should tell AP and the WH that America is grown up now...
...and can handle a little expletive now and again. In fact, we should encourage it.
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waywest Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 12:02 AM
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30. Here's an apology.
It's unfortunate that W* f___ed up again.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 12:31 AM
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33. I prefer: I'm sorry that W fucked up our country.
Will that suffice?
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 12:09 AM
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31. They can say he's a potty-mouth
and Bush can call him a major league asshole, for using off-color language. :eyes: What they can't do is say he's lying. They can not dispute the veracity of the statement - just the use of the F word.
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 12:41 AM
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36. We (heart) our PRESS?!
I'm so glad you (heart) your press, porgie!

Oh, our PRES?!

Don't you mean pRES?

Anyway, good for Kerry.

I love his refusal to apologize, and his use of this as another oppty. to point out that porgie was an AWOL coward.

Good going, Kerry.

(But Dean didn't "go to the left")

Still, I'll give you big props for telling it like it is, Sen. Kerry. Keep it up, it looks good on ya.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 12:42 AM
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37. Bush is a hypocrite
Edited on Mon Dec-08-03 12:43 AM by GloriaSmith
"That guy is a major league asshole" - George W. Bush on the campaign trail running for President.

Using profanity isn't what's beneath John Kerry, it's having to work with a man who was never meant to be President of the United States...now that's beneath John Kerry!
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 12:43 AM
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38. Ok I hope you are all puttin' a quarter in the potty-mouth jar!
Fuckin' damn straight!
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