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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 11:51 AM
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I read something today, as Bush crumbles, we experience "Schadenfreude"
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 12:04 PM
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1. Oh well, * deserves it (n/t)
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 12:17 PM
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2. An excellent point was brought up though.
"...giving Pi the chance to wonder again as she once had in a Wittgenstein seminar why there wasn't a word in English for Schadenfreude, that very human pleasure taken in other people's misery."

Why don't we have a word for it? Is it that we think we are better than that? Strange.

We do have a word for taking pleasure in another persons pleasure. It's called "compersion".
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 12:21 PM
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3. The use of adjective and noun
For example, perverse happiness. Kind of hard to get people to learn a new word that means "taking pleasure in other people's misfortune."

Sadism maybe, but that's different.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 12:29 PM
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6. I think that we feel we shouldn't take pleasure in the suffering of
others, regardless of how they may deserve it. But I don't know that it's healthy to think so. Schadenfreude is a natural human emotion, in the first place--it may not be too healthy to keep it bottled up. And also, if we experience schadenfreude because we know that people, if left unchecked, will only continue to hurt others, then it's good logic.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 12:23 PM
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4. Here's the link to the thread in "Cheney's Days Are Numbered"
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 12:28 PM
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5. It is a sign
that we are mobilized for a civil war.
We have gotten to the psychological point where we
now depersonalize the forces that have been attacking us since 1980.

This is the private government of Richard Mellon Scaife and his private towel boy, Grover Norquist, it is the private government of Enron, BP, Shell, and Bechtel. It does their bidding, and works for their pre-eminience.


They pushed over the lines of acceptable, not just legal, behavior several times in the last 20 some years. All of here watched the debacles -- North, Hassenfus, Newt, Starr, all front line soldiers for corporatism and the inside job.

Each time they did so, they weakened the bonds of polity and the collegiality of the government. Now it is again come down to finger in the eye, knee to the groin fighting, and after being kicked repeatedly in the head, I see the Dems off the floor and fighting, and I hear the Repubs squealing in pain... Good, damn good and about fooking time, say I!

It is like the Scrope scene in Henry V. Now they chide us for savagery. HAH! A little late for that kind of plea for civility, punks!

2008 will probably see a couple states on the verge of joining Canada.
They are going to push it over the line, I predict, over the next oil target, and over the 04 elections. And we will be lucky to be a nation of 50 states by the time this is over.


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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 01:25 PM
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8. you left out Exxon, Carlyle, Bechtel named in CIA Robert Baer's book -slee
"Sleeping with the Devil" expose'.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-03 12:43 PM
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7. I learned that word during the dot com bust in SF.
Some people were real, real happy to see the influx of folks willing to spend $3500/mo for a two bedroom apartment end. Not the landlords, but lots of other people.
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